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iv had issues with the things she has said before. like usark was not invited to the NRAAC and also that a PA bill hb1398 could ban reptiles. hb1398 cant affect reptiles in any way since it would amend a title that does not deal with reptiles. so these are two obvious lies.

the latest is a post from her on the retic nation facebook page. erica is now the usark rep that shows up on that page since wyatt got made and started calling people names after being asked a few question in regards to his post asking for $250,000 to look into a lawsuit against the lacy act listing of four large constrictors.

on 9/21/12 ercia said this. and this is a direct quote. i just copied and paste

Erika Nicole Chen-Walsh Hi again, Paul Lucas Jr. I agree that we *think* HR 511 is not going anywhere. However, it did pass out of the Judiciary Committee. Today, as a matter of fact.

one i found it odd that she would say hr511 isnt going anywhere on the very same day she says it went somewhere. but i decided to look into the matter.

i called congressman smith, who is the head chair of the house judiciary committee. they said they hr511 didnt move anywhere and they connected me with the house judiciary committees office. they said the same thing and gave me a few websites to go to. one being thomas.gov for information on the bill and where its at and what its doing. and the other http://clerk.house.gov which provides information on what took place in the house proceedings on specific days.

now erica said I agree that we *think* HR 511 is not going anywhere. However, it did pass out of the Judiciary Committee. Today, as a matter of fact.

that was on 9/21/12 but to be fare, in case she was mistaken about the day it passed out of committee, i check for 9/19/12, 9/20/12, and 9/21/12. and there was nothing. when i ask the lady at the judiciary office, what the delt with on 9/21/12 she said 3409 and amendments to it. and this was corroborated by what i found on clerk.house.gov. here is a link to that days proceedings and there is also a 7 hour video you can watch of it. also you can look back to see what took place the days before. you will find that nowhere does hr511 come up. for hr511 to leave the judiciary committee it either has to be brought to a vote and passed and then sent to the next step in becoming law, or it is never brought up for a vote and it dies at the end of session in december. after talking to the everyone today it is unlikely that it will come up for a vote which is good.

so unless everyone i talked to today from the congress and the house judiciary committee and all the websites i went to, were all misinformed, miss walsh is lying. but we must ask, why is USARKS VP lying about this and about my legislation here in PA and about not getting invited to the NRAAC?

whats the motivation behind her actions.

i cant find any information to back up her claims but i will give her the benefit of the doubt on this one. so if anyone out there can show some solid evidence that shes telling the truth i would love to see it
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so heres the email from usark talking about hr511. im going to do some research on this later this week. ill also be forwarding this to the house of the judiciary and will post their response.

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On Friday, September 21st’ the US House Judiciary Committee finally reported out HR 511. The release was made on the last day before Congress broke for the upcoming elections. HR 511 was actually passed out of the House Judiciary Committee on February 28, 2012 where it had been languishing for months. This bill, if passed as currently drafted, would add 9 constricting snakes to the Injurious Wildlife List of the Lacey Act. HR 511 is a rewrite by Congressman Tom Rooney (R-FL) of SB 373 which USARK defeated in 2010.

The release of HR 511 comes on the heels of a very productive visit to Capitol Hill by USARK President and CEO, Andrew Wyatt, and the National Geographic Society Resident Herpetologist, Dr. Brady Barr. Wyatt and Barr were well received by members of the Judiciary, as well as members of the House Natural Resources (HNR) Committee, where HR 511 will likely receive another hearing.

Barr highlighted the growing body of scientific evidence that stands in stark contrast to the controversial science from US Geological Survey underpinning the initiative. Wyatt went on to illustrate the economic damage being done to small businesses targeted by HR 511 and the recent rule-making by US Fish & Wildlife Service that added 4 constricting snakes to the Injurious Wildlife List.

USARK Consultant Joan Galvin of the law firm Kelley Drye stated, ”Based on the Judiciary Committee’s hearing and the accompanying report issued by staff, we believe that the members did not thoroughly understand the ramifications of the bill and the economic impact to our industry. We are hopeful that the HNR Committee will have the opportunity to hold a hearing on HR511 when Congress returns to allow our industry to set the record straight as to the misrepresentations made about the underlying science and risks to ecosystems, as well as about the substantial economic impact and unnecessary restrictions on our ability to keep, breed, trade and collect the 9 constricting snakes.

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USARK’s discussions with HNR staff continue and we are ready to participate fully”.

USARK CEO, Andrew Wyatt urges Committee members to remember Judiciary Member, and House Oversight & Government Reform Chair, Darryl Issa’s (R-CA) characterization of the issue as a “job killer,” and a terrible case of “government overreach”.

USARK hopes to be able to set the record straight in a hearing at the HNR Committee, but remains vigilant especially in regards to the ‘lame duck’ session in the wake of elections.

***WARNING- There has been much misinformation floating around on the internet. USARK is the only national organization dedicated to the herp community, and is engaged at the highest levels on federal and state issues. We are very careful to make sure our information is accurate. Beware of sources that do not have first hand knowledge. If you want to get the best information contact USARK directly or come to NARBC Tinley Park in Chicago where USARK representatives will be on hand to discuss issues.

USARK’s discussions with HNR staff continue and we are ready to participate fully”.

USARK CEO, Andrew Wyatt urges Committee members to remember Judiciary Member, and House Oversight & Government Reform Chair, Darryl Issa’s (R-CA) characterization of the issue as a “job killer,” and a terrible case of “government overreach”.

USARK hopes to be able to set the record straight in a hearing at the HNR Committee, but remains vigilant especially in regards to the ‘lame duck’ session in the wake of elections.

***WARNING- There has been much misinformation floating around on the internet. USARK is the only national organization dedicated to the herp community, and is engaged at the highest levels on federal and state issues. We are very careful to make sure our information is accurate. Beware of sources that do not have first hand knowledge. If you want to get the best information contact USARK directly or come to NARBC Tinley Park in Chicago where USARK representatives will be on hand to discuss issues.

now its very important to look at the wording in the first few lines of the email.

heres what usark says. "On Friday, September 21st’ the US House Judiciary Committee finally reported out HR 511. The release was made on the last day before Congress broke for the upcoming elections. HR 511 was actually passed out of the House Judiciary Committee on February 28, 2012 where it had been languishing for months."

now they said it passed out on 2/28/12. and was reported out 9/21/12. now usarks depends on our lack of knowledge on legal terms. here is a link to thomas.gov. this site tracks bill. on this site it says that hr511 and this is fright from the site and you can go to the link to see it your self. 2/28/12 "Ordered to be Reported (Amended) by Voice Vote." now im not up on my legal terms. but as i found out when usark ask PA senator alloway to amend hb1398 to say it wont affect reptiles, when you amend a bill it gets sent back to the beginning. which would make sense since hr511 would add 9 snakes to the lacy and 4 of them are already listed.

i will do more research on this issue in a few days.
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heres a link to a page that has a video of the hearing the house judiciary had that day. at about 45 mins in that start talking about snakes
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this hearing was on 2/28/12
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now iv been saying for some time that the people that are apart of usark are there to push their agendas and to make sure they are protected. be sure you listen in at around 57 mins in. where a rep from Utah ask that an amendment be made to move forward with the bill but to have boas removed and not be affected. im sure board member jeff ronnie was happy about this.

ALSO WHY DIDNT USARK EVERY TELL US ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT. I WILL DO SOME PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. I WILL ALSO CALL THIS REP IN UTAH IN A FEW DAYS

BE SURE AND LISTEN IN AT 1 HOUR 9 MINS

Can't really take anything this guy says seriously when he has quite the detailed rep on BOI...
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for anyone that dosnt take me seriously i posted all the necessary links and so on. i also did a lot of research on hr511 and got some interesting information on it. if anybody wishes to read it, its in the herp legislation section of the forum. as for the boi thread, i encourage everyone to read it. its a good example of how much of a joke the boi is. it allows anyone to say anything about anyone whether its true or not. that particular thread deals with a baby male purple retic i sold a guy. the snake had prolapsed once and seemed to be fine after that. i told the guy about it and told him to feed it small meals for a while. i also told him if he had any issues with the snake i would replace it. he even posted the FB conversation we had where i said i would replace it. plus two or three weeks later he saw a few mites on the snake, and that turned into me having an out of control mite problem an so on. keep in mind he bought the snake at a reptile show where he had handled many snakes that day. and both him and i didnt see any mites on the snake that day. the best part about all this is the snake prolapsed on him several time and i tried to make it right. i told him to take it to the vet and i would pay for the vet bill or he could exchange it for a new snakes. well i hatch some more purples out and he called me and asked if he could just have another snake. i said he could exchange it for one or i would pay the vet bill for him to get his fixed. he didnt want to do either. so at the next show i had a male breeder platty. he liked it so i took, i think $250 off to make up for the vet bill for the baby purple. which by the way he never did take the snake to the vet. i had to hear about how im such a scumbag and this and that and the guy saying it wouldnt even take the snake to the vet when i was willing to pay the cost. so anyways i sell him the platty at a good price to make up for the vet bill he never had.

then a month or two later i have to hear about how the snake i sold him is garbage and is sick and has all these problems. he calls me and tells me that the platty i sold him has ibd or some kind of neurological problem and a bad ri. then he told me he made a video of the snake being sick and acting funny. he said the video showed the snake hold its head funny and wheezing. so i watched the video and i was amazed at how this guy could have mistaken ibd/neurological issues and a ri with what the snake was doing. the snake had some thing in its nostril. no know how when they have some dry shed or something in their nostril and they try to blow it out and turn their head and rub their nose to try and get it out. thats what the snake was doing and this guy was ready to put it down becasue he thought there was something really wrong with it. at this point i realize this guy has no business having retic and i felt bad for even selling him one. this happen a year and a half or two years ago. even after i told him what the snake was doing he still said i was wrong and it was really sick and going to die. the guy just put that platty up for sale on fauna. heres the add. the snake is two years older and almost 5ft longer. the same snake that was really sick and going to die. http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=351826
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