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Amel Female from Yellow Amel Female & WC Refugio Co., TX Male

Amel Female from Yellow Amel Female & WC Refugio Co., TX Male

Amel Male from Yellow Amel Female & WC Refugio Co., TX Male

Definite Double Het White Wall and Lavender

Definite Double Het White Wall and Amel

Het Yellow Amel from Yellow Amel Female & WC Refugio Co., TX Male

White Wall Male

Yellow Amel Female from Yellow Amel Female & WC Refugio Co., TX Male

Yellow Amel Female - Dam to all 9 Amels and 1 Het

Yellow Amel Male from Yellow Amel Female & WC Refugio Co., TX Male

Some may say that the amel offspring of the yellow amel look like Splendida, but that is to be expected considering the WC male that was bred to the yellow amel was from an area of intergrades where both splendida and holbrooki phenotypes can be found. And I guess the WC male was het for amel and the odds got blown out of the water......9 amels and 1 het hatched out in 2011. The het looks 100% holbrooki....2 of the amels look like holbrooki and the others look more like splendida with some increased speckling.....

It's going to be fun breeding all possible genes together next year creating multi-hets.....
I am in need of a lavender pair......I only have a het male that is also het for white wall.....Next year there should be some definite het yellow amels that are possible het for lavender and whitewall.....Then there will be some definite double het white wall and amel and more yellow amels.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Great looking snakes. Awesome. How do you get them to pose for the camera so good?

DAVY

>>Great looking snakes. Awesome. How do you get them to pose for the camera so good?
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>>DAVY

Thanks...
It takes alot of patience....LOL
Sometimes I just set my hand over the top of the snake and start shooting pics while I remove my hand.....
I take many shots, choose the best and delete the rest....for each snake.....It is very time consuming, especially with a large collection.

I've got two groups complete and about 11 more groups to go....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Nice line-up of animals there, John!

Yeah, that insanely yellow female with the convex, domed scales is just ridiculous! Must be the strong "banana" Cal. king hybrid influence (per Davis)..AAHAHAHA!!...

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

serpentinespecialties.webs.com

>>Nice line-up of animals there, John!
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>>Yeah, that insanely yellow female with the convex, domed scales is just ridiculous! Must be the strong "banana" Cal. king hybrid influence (per Davis)..AAHAHAHA!!...

And amazingly her het son looks just like a holbrooki....and a few of her amel offspring are yellowing up......

I think this occurence is exactly like how an amel tricolor's white bands (where the black is absent) turns to yellow.

Banana Cal. kings hatch out yellow. These hatch out white and turn yellow.

I just need to find some lavenders...You know who has any?
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

"And amazingly her het son looks just like a holbrooki....and a few of her amel offspring are yellowing up......

I just need to find some lavenders...You know who has any?

Yes, that is very similar to how certain individuals and/or bloodlines of certain tricolors also gain TONS more yellow over time as they mature (e.g. certain amel ruthveni, amel Hondos, amel nelsoni, etc..)......likely from progressively stored carotenoids, as those always start out normally white.

No doubt in my mind that it is ALL holbrooki. That was very clear right from the beginning as we both know.

It is pretty odd how the lavender holbrooki are no longer seen in the hobby like they were years ago, but I will definitely let you know if I hear of any through the grape vine.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

serpentinespecialties.webs.com

>>"And amazingly her het son looks just like a holbrooki....and a few of her amel offspring are yellowing up......
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>>I think this occurence is exactly like how an amel tricolor's white bands (where the black is absent) turns to yellow.
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>>Banana Cal. kings hatch out yellow. These hatch out white and turn yellow."
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>>I just need to find some lavenders...You know who has any?
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>> Yes, that is very similar to how certain individuals and/or bloodlines of certain tricolors also gain TONS more yellow over time as they mature (e.g. certain amel ruthveni, amel Hondos, amel nelsoni, etc..)......likely from progressively stored carotenoids, as those always start out normally white.
>> No doubt in my mind that it is ALL holbrooki. That was very clear right from the beginning as we both know.
>> It is pretty odd how the lavender holbrooki are no longer seen in the hobby like they were years ago, but I will definitely let you know if I hear of any through the grape vine.

I had a female lavender but it escaped. She was the first snake in my 20 years of keeping them on a large scale to have escaped and never to be found.
Maybe I can talk Don Shores out of one or two....lol
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

"I had a female lavender but it escaped. She was the first snake in my 20 years of keeping them on a large scale to have escaped and never to be found.

Maybe I can talk Don Shores out of one or two....lol"

....yeah, I feel ya there,...hate when that happens..LOL!

Does Don still work with the lavender holbrooki?
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Well I got a pair of Definite Double Hets for White Wall and Lavender from him last year....So at one time he had a lavender adult. I wonder if ISIS has any anymore?
I will have to check around.
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

In all honesty and with no offense meant... I don't care about hets/hypos/amel/anorexic animals for the most part... but again in all honesty, those are some really fine looking animals John... with my liking for stark hard contrasts that white wall is pure eye candy.

Gerry

>>In all honesty and with no offense meant... I don't care about hets/hypos/amel/anorexic animals for the most part... but again in all honesty, those are some really fine looking animals John... with my liking for stark hard contrasts that white wall is pure eye candy.
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>>Gerry

Thank you Gerry and I understand completely.....
But I gotta try an support the collection some how....and the only way is morphs right now.....LOL

At least I don't have BPs....hahahahahaha
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

John, those first 3 and the last one look like splendida...

And when will you have those whitewalls available? haha

nice animals
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Chris - TX

>>John, those first 3 and the last one look like splendida...
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>>And when will you have those whitewalls available? haha
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>>nice animals

Thanks Chris....
Read the verbage under the photos.....at the bottom

I don't think I will have whitewalls for a while but I will have multi hets carrying the trait.
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

OK, I see, I got carried away in the photos. As always, nice pics man.
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Chris - TX

>>OK, I see, I got carried away in the photos. As always, nice pics man.

LOL....thanks Chris.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...