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genetics again

simmo Oct 06, 2003 12:25 PM

hi all.
could you help me i want to know what the babys would
look like if i breed a male blizzard to a female tangerine
hybino any help would be appreciated.

Replies (18)

royalgoldreps Oct 06, 2003 01:11 PM

Since neither animal appears to have the matching gene for the mates genetic traits you would still get hets. In this case though, you would get double hets for blizzard and albino.

The double homozygous (exibits both traits) result that CAN come from these double hets paired up would be a Banana Blizzard (not to be confused with the yellow blizzards that are being sold by some breeders that I call "Yellow Snow" blizzards).
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

CCappy175598 Oct 06, 2003 02:51 PM

I purchased a Blizzard but he appears to have alot of yellow on his back and tail especially after shedding. what would he be considered? what kind of trait is this?

loutreefrog Oct 06, 2003 03:02 PM

that might be a patternless depending on the size

CCappy175598 Oct 06, 2003 03:17 PM

he doesn't look like the patternlesses that I have seen. His yellow is on the little bumps on his skin. so from afar it looks like he has a shade of yellow on his body and its stronger on the base of his tail. Hes not full grown but i couldn't tell you the age. hes about 6and a half inches and really fat.

CCappy175598 Oct 06, 2003 03:34 PM

Here are some photos, sorry they are blurry, internet uploading is stinky.

CCappy175598 Oct 06, 2003 03:36 PM

made em bigger

nasr_36 Oct 06, 2003 05:29 PM

yellow blizzards are called banana blizzards.

royalgoldreps Oct 06, 2003 05:41 PM

Actualy, a Banana Blizzard is a double homozygous Patternless Blizzard. Prehistoric Pets described this trait more than two years ago. Breeders are trying to use this name as a spring board to sell any yellow blizzard and to jack up the price. A blizzard that is NOT double homozygous is just a yellow Blizzard that I call a "yellow snow" blizzard. They are inferior to a white Blizzard in my estimation.

Lemon Blizzard would be a better name since Banana Blizzard is already taken as explained above.
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

nasr_36 Oct 06, 2003 06:15 PM

Well, i didnt get anything from the top part, but whatever.

Thanks for correcting me...

M.N

bradley Oct 06, 2003 08:07 PM

Although they say they have in the blizzardlizard.com website, that website is over three years old and their line of banana blizzards have been proven to be just yellow blizzards. They have admitted it and several people including me have e-mailed them regarding the Banana Blizzard and if it does carry the patterless and blizzard gene and they did say that they proved that they did not have the patternless gene, and that the yellow blizzards pop up from a white colony at about a rate of 1:50.

So actually a banana blizzard fits the yellow blizzards well as there was never a patternlessxblizzard animal labled as a banana blizzard, although it was thought that they were. I believe Kelli has produced a patternlessxblizzard and has proved it, and Marcia at golden gate geckos has produced them but I have not heard that she has proved them to carry both traits.

If you want to hear it from Prehistoric Pets, e-mail them and they will tell you the same thing, however make sure you get an e-mail from Jay Brewer, he is the owner and bred the blizzards, some of the employees still go by the website.
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Bradley Baquial

leosandsnakes Oct 06, 2003 08:17 PM

the only bananna blizards that have proved out look like a high yellow patternless, i plan on breeding for a albino giant patternless blizard or in common terms an Albino Giant Bannana Blazing Blizard

www.goldengategeckos.com she has one marked as a blizard het patternless but, as you can tell its not a blizard, it may be a true cross, but we would have to wait to find out. but if you have $85 plus shipping i would recomend purchaseing it
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Fritz Oct 06, 2003 09:04 PM

man you've got a job on your hands
double recessive is tricky enough. I wish you all the luck in the world!
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royalgoldreps Oct 07, 2003 10:40 AM

Big difference dude.
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

royalgoldreps Oct 06, 2003 05:35 PM

Yellow on a blizzard is actually fairly common. When this is the case the only way to know for sure is to be really good at id'ing them or breed them to make sure. When they are young it is easy as you can see the "patternless pattern" that underlies the top color.

Tough call.
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

CCappy175598 Oct 06, 2003 05:54 PM

He is going to be one of my breeder males. If i breed him to a true blizzard would the offspring show dominant blizzard traits if he was a blizzard? how would it work if he were a patternless, banana blizzard, ect.?

royalgoldreps Oct 07, 2003 10:50 AM

If he is a true blizzard and mated to a true blizzard the babies would all be blizzard.

If he is a Patternless and mated to a Blizzard he would produce double hets for Patternless and Blizzard. These would be what you would need to have a chance of producing a true Banana Blizzard.
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

royalgoldreps Oct 06, 2003 05:18 PM

I was thinking patternless when I wrote my reply. Blizzard and PATTERNLESS makes the Banana Blizzard!

Still a good discussion on the "yellow snow blizzard" though!
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

leosandsnakes Oct 06, 2003 03:19 PM

ok in this pairing you would get some hypos het for blizard and albino.

when you breed those together you can get:
Out of 16

1 Normal
2 Het. blizard,
1 blizard,
2 Het. albino,
4 Double het blazing blizard,
2 Blizard het albino,
1 Albino,
2 Albino, Het. blizard,
1 Blazing Blizard,

so the phenotype is on average,
8 normal-66%het blazing blizard
3 Blizard-66%het albino
3 albino-66%het Blizard
1 Blazing blizard

A great genetics website is www.geneticswizard.com

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