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I just want to remind Florida residents of the upcoming Senate elections between Bill Nelson (D) and Connie Mack IV (R). Remember that Bill Nelson is responsible for all the new laws and regulations on python owning in the State of Florida. I don't really like Mack, but I will cast my vote AGAINST Nelson in November.
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Sed et serpens erat callidior cunctis animantibus terrae quae fecerat Dominus Deus...

Same here. I am voting against Nelson. I'm sick of politicians taking away our right to pursue happiness. They keep regulating and regulating and regulating. Making decisions that affect our lives dramatically, without a care. Vote against Nelson!

Keep in mind there were LOTS of Repukelikkklans in Florida that also were on the books with the law- They BOTH hate us!!!!

Matt
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"Change what you cannot accept... do not accept what you can't change!"

Tod Ashley C.$.C.

No need to turn this into a political thread! Besides, this isn't a partisan thread, it's an ignorance thread! Any tool that can't see the economical effect of some knee jerk reaction, wouldn't have my vote! DEFEAT NELSON!

It IS a political thread!!! Both sides are out of their minds... The people of Florida MUST vote against those who support this legislation- it's plain and simple. BOTH SIDES SUCK!!!!!! Nelson needs to go along with all the others who supported the bills written here and in DC.

Sorry to yell-

Matt

>>No need to turn this into a political thread! Besides, this isn't a partisan thread, it's an ignorance thread! Any tool that can't see the economical effect of some knee jerk reaction, wouldn't have my vote! DEFEAT NELSON!
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"Change what you cannot accept... do not accept what you can't change!"

Tod Ashley C.$.C.

if I lived in Florida I would work very hard to pay him back for what he has done to us. E
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Evan Stahl Reptiles
www.evanstahl.com

Connie Mack I'V was a friend of mine in college. He was a normal, nice guy that you could hang out with, never dreamed that he'd become a politician. We've lost touch, but he did drop by the office a few years back just to say hello. He's got my vote.

so, let me ask you all one question, what has done more damage to the reptile industry - the proposed legislation that Nelson proposed that did not pass OR the continued economic trouble?I myself have seen prices drop for ball pythons about 50% in the last year.

I bought a male lesser in May 2011 at the going price of $300. Now, I'm luck if I can find a buyer for a male lesser at $150. Similar drops have occurred across the board, in a way that can't be just due to natural price drops as a morph becomes more common.

As far as I can tell, the industry is being hit harder and money taken out from continued economic trouble more than regulations on Burms, rocks, and yellow anacondas. People are struggling and not able to afford to put money into the hobby. New buyers are not coming in to the market in a way that we need to sustain the growth and support the prices.

However, while the economy continues to be stagnant for the people involved in the hobby, giant corporations like GE make record profits of $3.2 BILLION from just the 3 months from July to September - and yet they pay NO taxes. Other large corporations are making record profits and they are paying their CEO's $20-50 Million a year while they lay off people and ship jobs overseas to China.

I'd say that is affecting the industry - and the ability of the average small snake breeder to make a little in the hobby they love - in a vastly more devastating way than Bill Nelson.

My point is not to say that Bill Nelson is a great guy, but that the things that negatively affect the industry are much more diverse than one guy.