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Talk about ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! Nothing else can really be said they will leave you speechless.

The big question everyone has is, ARE THEY HEALTHY?? The answer is YES they are rock solid and will bite you. They are some of the strongest boas I have seen with great structure and the variety you see in color and patterns is just amazing.

Rich was a great host and enjoyed drinking beers and talking boas!

Enjoy!

And there is this charming girl.

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Brandon Nixon

Wow those are gorgeous. Who produced them?

Rich Ihle produced them.
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Brandon Nixon

Those are awesome Brandon, but I've heard the opposite about their health.... I wont disagree that they're solid bodywise and have grea responses, but I've heard the longterm lifespan has turned out to be much less than desired.

Besides, This project has been around for a while now, why haven't we seen more of them? I only know of 2 or 3 litters being produced, where are they now? How many adults actually exist?

They're frikkin awesome looking, but not a project I would personlly spend any money on, until they prove healthy for the long run, just my opinion.

>>Those are awesome Brandon, but I've heard the opposite about their health.... I wont disagree that they're solid bodywise and have grea responses, but I've heard the longterm lifespan has turned out to be much less than desired.
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>>Besides, This project has been around for a while now, why haven't we seen more of them? I only know of 2 or 3 litters being produced, where are they now? How many adults actually exist?
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>>They're frikkin awesome looking, but not a project I would personlly spend any money on, until they prove healthy for the long run, just my opinion.

I am curious as to who you got your information from simply because the only 2 people that have had them longterm is Rich and Jeff ND that originally made them so I feel that comment is less than accurate.

Well females do take a while to mature and males may take time to get it right too, the first pairing a Sharp Sunglow x Scoria ended with the female dying during her gestation. One female was bred last year to a Bloody Salmon which produced 2 animals with the scoria look but not like these. This year two separate litters were made with a Normal x Scoria pairing and a Scoria x Normal pairing.

These here would be the 2nd and 3rd litters being produced by scorias the first being last year. The two animals from last year are alive and well. These are 6 months old and seem great for the amount of money I certainly wouldn't buy into a dead project.

The information you are basing your opinion on is simply rumor because no one had heard much. Rich is deeply involved in his Reptile Adventures and is maintaining a very small collection of boas as this time and a this point just looking to reproduce the Scoria projects per our conversations.
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Brandon Nixon

I remember Rich bought the project and it was adertised on his web site for some time and then disapeared !

I could check my records but from what I can remember the first scorias were ^produced in 2004 by the original breeder with a second litter in 2005 ! There was males and females
So if it is a recessive mutation or co-dom, with very bad luck it could have took some time to produce homozygotes.
So what are they, dominant/incomplete dominant, recessive,....or epystasic ?

Brandon those are really cool ..and your effort to make the visit.. also glad Rich is still playing.i don't care about all the records or who or what.. they look good and boas take time,thanks

I've saw them mentioned in a negative light on a couple FB discussions, but I think this may be influenced by the "Scorias" (unrelated bloodline from what I hear) being produced in Europe. Whether either line has health issues is likely debatable because of their new-ness, and also degree of inbreeding if any, etc. More likely in my belief that they are no more weak gened than albinos or jungles....and it's more a case of sour grapes

>>I've saw them mentioned in a negative light on a couple FB discussions, but I think this may be influenced by the "Scorias" (unrelated bloodline from what I hear) being produced in Europe. Whether either line has health issues is likely debatable because of their new-ness, and also degree of inbreeding if any, etc. More likely in my belief that they are no more weak gened than albinos or jungles....and it's more a case of sour grapes

Did you happen to see any pics of this Scoria boa that popped up in Europe? Just curious if there were photos with this posting or if someone was just chatting about it.

A Cut Above
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