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2010 Hypo Sonoran Boa Female

Biophiliacs Dec 02, 2012 03:30 PM

From Sutherland. Would love to see some pure Sonoran Ghosts with their(Sonora) hypo and anery genes.

Matt Schubarth
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Warren_Booth Dec 02, 2012 05:34 PM

Colette is doing great things with Sonorans. The ghosts are going to look great. Their anerythristics came from my line, and were babies I produced in 2003. Here is what they turn out like as adults:

Warren
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Dr. Warren Booth
Assistant Professor of Molecular Ecology
Department of Biological Sciences
University of Tulsa

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Biophiliacs Dec 03, 2012 12:05 AM

Nice. A month after I bought my Hypo Sonoran pair from Colette, I was thinking of where I would like to go with it a few years from now and I knew a Sonoran form of anerthyrism existed but didn't know they were in the states. That anery you have posted is smoken.
Matt Schubarth

Warren_Booth Dec 03, 2012 12:35 AM

Thank you. The Anerythristic Sonoran is something I am extremely proud to have developed. The project started after I imported a group of 6 Sonorans from Europe with a friend. 2 died, 1.1 bred in 2002 producing the first Anerythirstics, and then in 6 subsequent litters, and the other pair (originally thought to be 0.2) produced additional anerythristics. That second pair can be traced through Phil Draper in England, then on to Peter Rice (also in the U.K). All, however, are derived from what can be considered my line. They are characterized by the jet black tails, where the saddles and sides are deep black, not black and grey.

I should have a few available here in the U.S. in early 2013.

Warren
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Dr. Warren Booth
Assistant Professor of Molecular Ecology
Department of Biological Sciences
University of Tulsa

USARK - Director

LarM Dec 03, 2012 12:55 PM

Sonoran type II Anerythristic Boas are the most beautiful type II form of Anery I've ever seen . .

I remember Jeremey had a type II Anewry fem that was drop dead gorgeous ! . . . . . .
Problem was he never said it was a Sonoran type II so he as well as others were everyone was breeding those to Nicaraguans
trying to reproduce that same gorgeous Anery type II Phenotype opf the Matriarch . . . . . . .

Had anybody thought about it for three seconds they would have realized the beauty comes
from the Sonoran Phenotype . . NOT the the Type II Anery itself . .

So breeding to so ugly Nicaraguan Anery type II was not going to reproduce that gorgeous phenotype seen
in that original Sonoran Anery Type II Jeremy had . ..

When I later found out she was a a Sonoran I was devastated that Nobody was smart enough to understand the great loss of not using their brains and acquiring other Sonoran Boas to breed that Matriarch Sonoran Anery type II Boa with . . .

I see now Warren , that your line of Sonoran type II Anery look pretty much the same as that original "JS" Matriarch looked . . .

It makes me happy that this particular Anery II Phenotype was not lost forever as I thought it was . . . .

. . . Lar M
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Warren_Booth Dec 03, 2012 01:16 PM

Larry,
Jeremy's Anery came from my line. It was sold to him by Chris Gillam in the UK. Chris bought a bunch from me and sold them as his own captive bred (I later found out). All Anery Sonorans I am aware of can be traced to my line.

Warren
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Dr. Warren Booth
Assistant Professor of Molecular Ecology
Department of Biological Sciences
University of Tulsa

USARK - Director

LarM Dec 06, 2012 03:06 PM

OK Warren so your Anery Sonoran Line has been around for well over 10 years is what you're saying ?

These Type II Anery Sonoran Boass are the most beautiful of all type II Anery Boas anywhere . .

It was thart fem "JS" had that made me want to make some . . .but I was erroneously under the impression she was Nicaraguan at that time 2003-2004 . . .
Of course now I know the whole story . . . I might have to get into some Sonoran projects. There is so much I like about the Sonoran locale.

The Sonoran Locale has so many different phenotypes . . . . so many beautiful phenotypes . . . . . .
That's what majesty the Sonoran such a fun project . . .there is so much to do with it . . . .plus there is likely a lot more phenotypes . . . . meaning different Sonoran Morphs still waiting to pop out . . . .
This makes the Sonoran project something interesting for years and years to come !

After I see where I'm at with space after I produce many of the Colombian Morph projects I'm working with.
I'll be able to better estimate if I'll have the room for a Sonoran project or not

. . . Thx Warren

. . . Lar M
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