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here is one of my 2010 cal kings from a group I got from Kerby. I think this one was labeled as a normal but it gets more and more interesting looking as it grows... She's about 350 grams now so I'll try to breed her in 2013, I think she's a little too small though. She was pretty jumpy so this was the best I could do.

and for some OT awesomeness...

here is a hatchling albino southern ringneck snake.... seriously might be the smallest albino snake ever. he's so small it might be a while before I get a better shot of him lol.

a leucistic mississippi map (on the right) next to an albino mississippi map.

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that truly is some off topic awsomeness!!!
did you produce the ringneck??? i remember seeing you had these years ago, yeah?
really cool

,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

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Hey Thomas thanks for looking,
The albino ringneck was actually found in FL at the beginning of this week. Hopefully the guy can find this one's siblings too! I didn't have much luck with the last albino ringneck I had, it ended up escaping before I even had a chance to try and breed it.
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So Mike,
You are obviously the recssive trait ringneck expert as i have seen your posts for a few years .

So let me ask you this question(s). How many amelanistic ringnecks have been found? Are they common? Also have there been any other recessive trait ringnecks found?

Finally, are they really that hard to get to eat/ or is it just some/ or are some locales better feeders than others locations? For instance the western ringnecks vs the Eastern ringnecks?
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Hey Rainer,

How many amelanistic ringnecks have been found? Are they common? Also have there been any other recessive trait ringnecks found?

In the past 12 years or so I've had at least 20-30 people contact me about albino ringneck snakes that they found, usually it's somebody who doesn't keep snakes and have never kept snakes.. Those people almost never want to give the snake up, so I'll help them as best as I can to keep it alive but 9 times out of 10 that snake will end up lost to the hobby. Honestly I'd say that albino ringnecks are the most commonly found albino snake in the wild, and I've seen albinos of almost all 12 U.S. sub-species (even though technically they got rid of the sub-species so they're classified the same now). I've also seen Anerythristic ringnecks, Melanistics and Hypos, as well as a couple Striped prairie ringneck snakes, but none of those were ever bred so who knows if they were actual recessive traits, though I'm sure they were.

Finally, are they really that hard to get to eat/ or is it just some/ or are some locales better feeders than others locations? For instance the western ringnecks vs the Eastern ringnecks?

Any ringneck snake will eat if they are hungry and if you offer them the prey that they want. Northern ringnecks can and will feed the same day they're found if you offer them salamanders. Southern ringnecks in my opinion have the most variable diet, from worms, fish, lizards, frogs, small snakes, and they take to scented pinky mice pretty well.
Western sub-species (most of them) will only eat snakes and lizards, a couple of them take salamanders and worms as well, the Regals which are the largest will only take reptile prey but I've heard of a good bit of those switching to pinkies with ease and I know of several regals that have been in captivity 5 plus years and one that's even been in captivity for 20.
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Hey, I'm glad it got there ok! FedEx sucks!!!!!!! It is small as hell dude, hopefully it eats.............
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Gerard

"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "

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GONE FISHING!!!

No worries bro he pounded down a couple guppies tonight!!
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[B}No worries bro he pounded down a couple guppies tonight!!
{/B]

Guppies? That is interesting. Do you just throw them in right in front of them while alive/ or will they eat ded or F/T guppies?

Also have you or anyone else here ever tried guppies with stubborn kingsnakes before?
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Hey Rainer,
Believe it or not ringnecks will eat fish out of a bowl just like garter snakes will. I used to keep a colony of southern ringnecks together, and several times during the day they'd notice fish swimming around in a clear bowl, and they would dive in, mouth open swimming around until they caught a fish. I've witnessed this many times, it's no fluke. They'll also take them flopping around in front of them (if they flop enough to notice), but I've only personally seen the southerns eat fish and I've tried with most of the sub-species. Will Still who stops by this forum sometimes used to have a baby albino northern ringneck that would eat guppies.

I've never tried fish with kings, this year all the kings I hatched took to f/t or live pinkies with no problems.
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Intersting. i think i heard this about them eating fish before (probably from a post of yours a few years ago).

I know a guy now that is getting all sorts of "known" hard feeding lizard and snake spp to eat by scenting with salamader slime. I don't know what species of salamder but he keeps them frozen in a baggy and just lets them thaw and put on the pinkies and BAM they take it.

So guppies, salamanders, ha ha . We have to think outside the box.
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It's all outside the box thinking when you learn and work with animals other than the ones that have been established since the 60's. Try working with something different and you will find yourself learning right away. Don't be scared!
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you too Davis.

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Gerard

"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "

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GONE FISHING!!!

Awesome! Now I have to wait 8 years for mine?
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Gerard

"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "

www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

Unless I end up with a het albino from the same locality haha
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