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steve.AC Oct 07, 2003 12:30 PM

I keep hearing you say that the USA has and is trying to get rid of the evil sadam (yes I agree he is evil) and you've got his sons already.

You use this line alot to justify the war. Please tell me why you didn't go and get him many many years ago if you knew he was soo evil, yes the first war ended but you didn't get him or his evil sons.

If you really cared about the people over there I think you would have gone back alot sooner, and why oh why did you have to wait for the WMD to come up, as you obviousley didn't need this reason in the first place. You use the fact that sadam is an evil man, torturing and murdering his citizens, but that is infact deffinitly not the reason that you went over there, and you continue to use it in your favor when it comes to telling us what you are doing there.

This seems to make me ask what was the true reason for going, if it is to deffend the USA then I would rather hear that and not hear the other stuff, and if there are no WMD found which is a fact right now, then you should leave, but I think you have gotten into something that is hard for you to get out of without a good reason.

Im serious about this, Ide really like to know your personal views about this, and I promiss not to slander anyones replies.

thanks

Steve

Replies (15)

DevinP Oct 07, 2003 12:50 PM

After all the many posts on this forum adressing exactly the question that you so "innocently" ask, you have no excuse to act as if it hasn't already been answered 1,000 times. Go back and study school boy before you insult Americans any further than you already have. Dismissed!

Devin P.

steve.AC Oct 07, 2003 12:56 PM

I unlike you dont have the time to go through thousands of posts, but I still know that you are using the wrong arguments as to what you are doing there.

steve

DevinP Oct 07, 2003 01:12 PM

Devin P.

kanuck Oct 07, 2003 01:07 PM

Since there are no WMD or ties to Al-Queda, the only real reason to go in was humanitarian. Why wait so long in that case? It's a valid question

DevinP Oct 07, 2003 01:19 PM

The ties to Al Qaeda are clear.

Saddam was a WMD.

All "humanitarian" considerations were secondary.

The US responded to 9/11. We don't care what Canada and the losers in England, who opposed Tony Blair, think. There will be plenty of other actions taken by the US government in the future to continue our warr on terrorism. You and your whinny comrade from England will complain and criticize our every move then, just like you are now. You both hate Americans, as illustrated in your many posts here, so you will criticize our future efforts without regard to the reasons. Dismissed!

Devin P.

DevinP Oct 07, 2003 01:22 PM

We don't need your approval, nor do we offer you any apologies!

Ha Ha misguided Socialist!

Devin P.

PS It's amazing how you have so much time to criticize a greater country than your own, when you have so many problems plaguing your own dreary little country.

steve.AC Oct 07, 2003 01:26 PM

Devin

I think it's you that hates the rest of the world, and the anti American thing is very boring, have you nothing more to do than say those words over and over. You know the reason for going over there, it is because you wanted retaliation for the attrocities caused in the US. Why cant you admit that, and why can't the USA admit that as well, if its all about terrorism then say it and stop telling us its some humanitarian effort instead because as I can clearly see, you do not have any bone in your body that would like to help anyone who dissagrees with the USA. Youve made that clear from the start.

steve

DevinP Oct 07, 2003 01:39 PM

Devin P.

kanuck Oct 07, 2003 01:30 PM

This is getting too easy. I'll talk slowly so you can follow. Your own President(George W Bush) and other members of the cabinet Powell etc, have stated that there were NO TIES to Al-Queda. None, zero, zich, nada. If you really want to go after a country that helped fund the terrorists look at Saudi Arabia. They've traced an awful lot of the money to there. Man pick up a paper and read it. Get current on whats going on before you open you're mouth and prove you're a fool

DevinP Oct 07, 2003 01:40 PM

Devin P.

kanuck Oct 07, 2003 01:42 PM

Nah,
Flys are attracted to BS so I'm sticking close to you.

DevinP Oct 07, 2003 01:56 PM

Devin P.

froggystyle34 Oct 07, 2003 01:57 PM

You use this line alot to justify the war. Please tell me why you didn't go and get him many many years ago if you knew he was soo evil, yes the first war ended but you didn't get him or his evil sons.

ANSWER: the first war, like i have said in the past on here, was not about the evil tyrant being taken out of power it was about stopping him from invading Kuwait, and we did. You see the thing is for as long as I have been in the military Saddam has been a threat to the peace and stability of the world, and the Middle East, by yes harboring terrorist, and by commiting such evil crimes, and acts of torture. Everytime this man decided to try something we shut him down and spent billions doing it everytime, this time it is for good.

If you really cared about the people over there I think you would have gone back alot sooner, and why oh why did you have to wait for the WMD to come up, as you obviousley didn't need this reason in the first place. You use the fact that sadam is an evil man, torturing and murdering his citizens, but that is infact deffinitly not the reason that you went over there, and you continue to use it in your favor when it comes to telling us what you are doing there.

Answer: it wasnt a matter of going back and getting him, it is a matter of having a Pres. who had the guts to do it. Think about, bare with me for a sec, imagine that the day Saddam took power didnt happen and it went to someone else like a Shiite Muslim tribal leader, or a Kurdish tribal leader. Do you honestly think that Iraq would be in the turmoil it is now? There have been reports that Saddam was evil all his life, and why change when he got power? As far as using it in our favor, the US is funding the war and has been from the start, we dont have to tell the world why we are over there, it is just a nicety on our part.

This seems to make me ask what was the true reason for going, if it is to deffend the USA then I would rather hear that and not hear the other stuff, and if there are no WMD found which is a fact right now, then you should leave, but I think you have gotten into something that is hard for you to get out of without a good reason.

Answer: well again, it was a place that harbored terrorism, just like Syria, not only al qaeda but the Hammas and the other muslim terrorsit group, name slipped my mind right now. These two groups have close ties with UBL, and other groups that have cells in the US and abroad. HMMMMM does anyone remember how they found out that the war convention in the Phillipines was going to happen? By documents found in one of Saddams palaces. No it is not hard to get out of it, and the WMD was only part of the reason the main one REGIME CHANGE, wich in turn has not happened yet, and WHEN it does happen and the Ieraqi people can govern themselves then they will. That is the ultimate goal of the uited states, not a middle eastern democracy, although would be nice, but a country of official electd by the people for the people, be it Muslim, Jewish or christian.

I know this is alot for you too grasp, and i really do wish i could tell you more about what is going on here but i just cant. Well i hope this explained my opinion to you and i really hope i didnt insult you in anyway. and do nto try to turn this into a grammar session cause i really dont care if there are gramatical or spelling mistakes in here, i have been up over 36 hours and i am going to bed

good night to all

Froggy
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The next time the shuttle lands, lets all get dressed up in ape suits and charge at the astronaughts yelling and ranting. That way they can try to figure out where they took a wrong turn.

steve.AC Oct 07, 2003 02:15 PM

Well thanks for your answers

Its nice to get a real oppinion and not just a slap in the face all the time, our oppinions may differ but I respect your answers.

Thanks

steve

DevinP Oct 07, 2003 02:27 PM

Since you do, let's hear you tell Froggy exactly why he is wrong. Refute some of his specific points, if you can. Offer evidence to the contrary, if you can. You are the guy who has already heard our reasons for being in Iraq, yet you keep asking the same questions over and over. Well you just got from a guy who wakes up every day in Iraq, and he has been very civil to you. What's the problem now Steve, you disagree with Froggy, but you can't argue with him because you "respect" him. You evaded the questions of others because they (not me of course) were rude. Why don't you admit the fact that you have no argument.

Devin P.

PS Hopefully you are done with the questions.

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