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Ok cheerleaders here we go, It is real apparent that when faced with facts that you dodge them. You all try to redirect the conversation to a childish bickering match. You all obvisously have done no research in the topics, or the presidents history of using people for his own personal gain. I believe now that even if Bush came out and told you that he was using this war in Iraq to boost his own, and buddies pockets, you¡¦re so caught up in the lie, that it would not matter. Instead of debating these topics like people over the age of 9, you just play name calling games. You use such well thought at names such as: Anti American, Nazi, and as one cheerleader stated ¡§The enemy¡¨. When people quote other people who also believe the president is LIEING you dismiss it saying: O he/she is a democrat, He/she is not from this country, etc. etc. I noticed no one had anything to say when I posted quotes from Peter Peterson, chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and a life long REPUBLICAN. Mr. Peterson: ¡§I see both a fiscal economic crisis in the making. I also see a moral crisis.¡¨ I stated that the top 10% of Americans got 10% richer last year. You ladies replied with such interesting post as. ¡§Sounds like your jealous¡¨ Maybe you all don¡¦t get it. Maybe you all don¡¦t want to get it. I doubt any of you are in that top 10%, but that tax cut for them will come out of the pockets of every working man and woman. Bush has cut the money to veterans, social security, health care, and much more to make this tax cut for the top 10% work. A major problem in America is that all of our policies domestic and foreign are influenced by major corporations. This is no longer a country for the people, by the people. It¡¦s for the consumer, by the corporation. These corporations don¡¦t care about the American people, just the all mighty dollar. This can be seen very clearly with all the companies that have moved over seas to get cheap labor in the past 10-15 years. One of Americas other big problems is the ¡§We can do this but you can¡¦t¡¨ attitude. For example: Russia and Iran are working on putting a nuclear power plant in Iran. America says ¡§you can¡¦t do that¡¨ but we have many many dotted across the U.S.A. We condemned Iraq and Arab TV. stations for showing dead Americans. Under the Geneva act we are prevented from showing casualties. Yet I recall seeing the bodies of both Uday and Qusay „² Saddams sons. We are adding to are arsenal everyday while telling other countries that they cannot. This double standard does not fly right. As far as this war on terror goes. Bush is using 9/11 like a reference. If he wants holes drilled in Alaska, or to stop sex tourism over seas, He brings up 9/11. As author Michael Moore stated: He dishonors the people that died that day every time he brings it up. Another thing that has puzzled me, and has not yet been mentioned is religion. Bush claims that god told him to invade Iraq, and Afghanistan. Last guy I heard was talking to god was in WACO, Texas. Most Muslims see this as a clash between Christianity and their religion. Bush only cuts wounds deeper when he makes such statements as ¡§God told me to¡¨. He makes it not a war on terror in their eyes, but a war on Islam. Little know fact: 80-90% of all oil on earth is under Muslim countries. Iraq alone had the 2nd largest oil reserve on earth. Not only that their oil has to be least refined then many other deposits found on this planet. This war went from Osama and the Taliban, to Saddam and WMD. When asked about those WMD you all went from He had/ is making WMD to He is the WMD. You all flip flop the facts around till it meets your ideas. Kind of the same thing Bush did with this war on terror. Flip flopped the facts till we were back fighting his daddy¡¦s war, and getting OUR oil from underneath THEIR country. You all bring up the rape, murder, torture, Yet never bring up we could have stopped that had we finished the job the 1st time. You never bring up who put Saddam and Osama in power. You never bring up who gave Saddam the gas he used on those people. You never bring up that the CIA trained Osama in terrorism when Russia was fighting Afghanistan. You never bring up that 4 of the hijackers came from Saudi Arabia ¡§Are so called ally¡¨ You never bring up the fact that dozens of reports came flooding in from many countries warning that the 9/11 hijackings were imminent. You never bring up the fact that No F-16¡¦s were scrambled to intercept those planes before they struck the pentagon or the WTC¡¦s ¡§Not following proper procedure¡¨. Instead they were told to stand down. You never bring up the fact that most of the hijackers were already on a do not enter list, yet were allowed to enter the country anyway. Instead you people follow Bush blindly and question nothing he does. You all act as if his $hit don¡¦t stink! Bush is slipping in the polls. That is because more and more people are getting a wiff of his Bs.
And as far as Osama, and Saddam goes. They will never be captured alive. They will never stand trial. That is because if they did they would tell how the U.S. backed their regime until they didn¡¦t go along with what the U.S. wanted. If you livestock would spend half the time researching these matters, that you do defending this administrations lies, maybe you to could see the bigger picture. Then again Maybe not..

Not facing facts and dodging them is YOUR SPECIALTY!!! You parrot whatever you hear from ANY source that is outside the realm of your ridiculous agenda. I answered questions for you below. You have FAILED to answer mine! So don't come on here acting the bigshot. You have no facts, no opinions of YOUR OWN, and you are a decieving scammer to boot. Post your real name. You are not Devin Price from Little Rock as you claimed earlier. You are Fred Albury and anyone that has done their homework as I have knows what kind of a person you are. All they have to do is refer to the BOI. ANSWER THE QUESTIONS BELOW...WOMAN!

P.S. Go back to school and pay attention in grammar this time!

As I thought. You change the subject. You have no Idea who I am. You use this whole fred thang as a way to get off topic. Plus I have no reason to lie to your sorry kind. And just because you sign 1 or 2 post dont mean every one else has to follow your lead. Even if I did you would still make up names and say I was lieing. So wtf is the point? Man you need a reality check BIg time! Your little groupie snake I see is using a different name now. To bad snake you already showed everyone that your not capable of a real thought.

If you are going to continue to attempt to disguse your identity here, you are going to have to remember simple rules, one of them being : DROP THE "E" WHEN ADDING "ING"! By the way Fred, the mush that you posted demonstrated nothing more than what a scatterbrain you are. Little Rock says HELLO!

Devin Price

PS It's a shame that Snake Dude isn't with us anymore. I miss him too.

"You have no Idea who I am"

Ha ha Freddy! We know exactly who you are. Your nature to deceive is unmistakeable. It's fun to bust you, when you play your games!

Devin Price

PS What's your name Fred, whoops, I mean "sobek", whoops I mean "Devin Price". hey that's my name too. Maybe we can all be "Devin Price". Ha Ha Freddy! You are too funny!

ok I'm done reading your post. I quit reading snakes due to such nonsense. Man you are good example of why children should be supervised while on the net.

Change the subject? At least I answered your questions previously. When I responded with the SAME questions, you tucked tail and ran just like you ALWAYS do. So don't talk to me about changing the subject. Why didn't you answer the question about what you do for a living? Why didn't you answer the question about whether or not you consider yourself a minority? These were questions YOU brought up! Lastly, are you sure you want to stick to your story about who you claim to be? I've exposed you before and I'll do it again. Toodles Fred.

i respect everyones opinion here, and you are entitled to yours but i have some civil questions for you.

1. have you ever served in the military? if so ever fought in a war?

2. are you american, anti- american or just anti bush? i will not flame you for this answer and i hope no one else will on my request.

3. if you are american do you Vote? and do you know the election process?

4. #1 or #2...j/k trying to lighten up the atmsphere a little.

5. were you the second gunman on the grassy knole...j/k again
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The next time the shuttle lands, lets all get dressed up in ape suits and charge at the astronaughts yelling and ranting. That way they can try to figure out where they took a wrong turn.

Greetings froggy. I hope this finds you well. Here we go:

1. have you ever served in the military? if so ever fought in a war?

No. I tried to inlist when I was 18, but was turned down due to a tattoo on the face of my hand.

2. are you american, anti- american or just anti bush? i will not flame you for this answer and i hope no one else will on my request.

I am 100% American. Born and raised in Arkansas. I do belive givin all the facts that the Bush family has alot of dirt on its hands, and is not being held accountable. But the blame in all our problems does not rest on that family alone. It is in the major corparations also influncing are policies.

3. if you are american do you Vote? and do you know the election process?

I just turned 18 last election. I didnt vote though. You see how all that turned out I will vote for clark in 04 though I'm pretty fimiliar with the whole process.. On a side note. Did you know the company in charge of makeing the new election machines "Deebolt" i think is the name. The owner is a lagre campagine contrabuter to Bush. Makes ya wonder huh?

#1 or #2...j/k trying to lighten up the atmsphere a little.

lol man does that get old.. What saddam did is wrong, To lie about going to war is wrong. I stand on that!

5. were you the second gunman on the grassy knole...j/k again

It was not me. It was the one armed man

Come on "sobek", you have to remember that you are undercover!

Devin P.

PS How did you come up with the name "sobek"? And could you please tell us more about how the Bush family knowingly funded the Nazi's? Your BS is entertaining!

No. I tried to inlist when I was 18, but was turned down due to a tattoo on the face of my hand.

you could have gottne them removed and served, but hey not for you i understand.

I am 100% American. Born and raised in Arkansas. I do belive givin all the facts that the Bush family has alot of dirt on its hands, and is not being held accountable. But the blame in all our problems does not rest on that family alone. It is in the major corparations also influncing are policies.

true, Bush has a lot of dirt on his hands but it is better than having it where Bill Clinton did. And no major corparations do not influence decisions of national security or the election of the people.

I just turned 18 last election. I didnt vote though. You see how all that turned out I will vote for clark in 04 though I'm pretty fimiliar with the whole process.. On a side note. Did you know the company in charge of makeing the new election machines "Deebolt" i think is the name. The owner is a lagre campagine contrabuter to Bush. Makes ya wonder huh?

No it doesnt make me wonder...well the presidnet is not picked on a total tally of votes by the people it is the votes of the electoral college, and no matter what anyone says Gore di not win and would not have been a better president than Bush, look what he did with Clinton...makes you wonder huh?

lol man does that get old.. What saddam did is wrong, To lie about going to war is wrong. I stand on that!

well good stand up for your beliefs, and yes it does get old so just pick one already. I dont see how there was a lie going to war, Bush said in the initial speech it was about regime change, and thats what is happening now. the WMD thing came about when GW got false information from the CIA, makes you wonder do you thik those people still have there job? highly unlikely.

It was not me. It was the one armed man

was that before or after the tattoo?

hey thanks for answering and take it from me when all this stuff comes outyou are going to see the light you are just going to have to trust me on this one.

froggy
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The next time the shuttle lands, lets all get dressed up in ape suits and charge at the astronaughts yelling and ranting. That way they can try to figure out where they took a wrong turn.

I know that your little feelings are hurt because the bodies of your buddies Uday and Qusay were shown on TV. Poor Fred! Proving to Iraq's frightened and skeptical citizens that Saddam's Regime was gone couldn't possibly have entered you little brain as a sensible thing to do, could it?

Of course that invertebrate Michael Moore is someone you would find worth quoting. Save it!

"Lieing" :Fred, you musn't give yourself away like this. Remember your trademark habit of not dropping the "e" when adding "ing"?

"10 % of American got 10% richer last year" Hooray! It's not a crime to be "rich" in this country. If you don't like it, and if you refuse to find a job, then leave! You'd make a good comrade in one of those wretched Socialist countries. Bye Bye Fred!

Bush Sr, made a reasonable decision when he left Iraq after accomplishing the objective of freeing Kuwait the first time around. Any crap that you blather to the contrary is a result of your own disillusionment.

Saddam was a WMD!

In general, your jibberish is characteristic of your usual nonsence, in that you have no concept of priorities or root issues. You are an uninformed fool, and you go blathering on about issues that you haven't grasped. Your President has done a superb job reversing the effects of terrorism, meaning that it is the terrorists who are now being terrorized. They are not very effective when they are running for their lives. True Americans haven't forgotten the feeling of vulnerability on 9/11. Our attitude toward terrorism has changed, and Bush is working down his list of objectives to make the world a safer place. Get it fool?

Of course you don't. You are busy sponging off the government, and because your unemployment benefite are dwindling, and you have no job skills of desire to aquire them, you have to lash out at someone other than yourself. Of course that's where Bush comes in. More money spent on "guns" means less "government cheese" for little ol' Freddy boy! Get a job loser!

Devin P.

man your a dim light bulb. grow up!!

In cases where you are accusing someone of being dumb, you cannot afford to look, in this case spell, like a dummy yourself. Remember that Fred!

Devin Price

PS Hello from Arkansas!

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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

Stoeckl gets silly when he sees an American who hates his own country. Stoeckl would really celebrate if we had a lame President (like Gore) who would spend our tax dollars on welfare rather than national security. Stoeckl, you see likes the weaklings who want to see America weak. Fred is the perfect weakling for Stoeckl!

Devin Price

What article did your copy your crappy one-liners from this time Fred? Plagiarist!

Devin Price