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Anyone going to the Ball Python Expo?

Bluerosy Jul 29, 2013 07:24 AM

..in Daytona.

It is too bad. Awe sure there are a few torts and lizards scattered around. But the colubrids are pretty basic with common kings, milks and rats. used to be a place you could see first time bred stuff from overseas countries. Not so anymore. This hobby has changed all into the money making bandits. Which is cool if you are making over a million a year like most small PB breeders I know.
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"So I will end with, your now aware of the problem, what YOU do is entirely up to you. Now if you make THIS mistake, its not because you are ignorant."

Frank Retes

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thomas davis Jul 29, 2013 08:50 PM

I want to go but dont think I will be able to. im too busy with babies!
pics coming soon

,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

daveb Aug 02, 2013 09:06 PM

i would like it if you would post your picture of the "national florida kingsnake expo" that you had several years ago!
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alcohol, tobacco and firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency

bluerosy Aug 05, 2013 10:52 PM

Hey Dave. I will try and find that pic.

Will you be there this year?
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"So I will end with, your now aware of the problem, what YOU do is entirely up to you. Now if you make THIS mistake, its not because you are ignorant."

Frank Retes

daveb Aug 06, 2013 07:24 AM

>>Hey Dave. I will try and find that pic.
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>>Will you be there this year?
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>>"So I will end with, your now aware of the problem, what YOU do is entirely up to you. Now if you make THIS mistake, its not because you are ignorant."
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>>Frank Retes

won't be there unfortunately
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alcohol, tobacco and firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency

Bluerosy Aug 07, 2013 03:06 PM

Sorry to hear that you won't be there. One of these days you will have to get some snakes again!
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"So I will end with, your now aware of the problem, what YOU do is entirely up to you. Now if you make THIS mistake, its not because you are ignorant."

Frank Retes

RichH Aug 03, 2013 09:28 PM

I felt that way after they moved the expo from Orlando. I was then a locale specific guy and many like me called it the "Morph" show. Actually still a locale guy but most now have morph influence. One day out in the middle of a swamp I came across a Northern Blue Tongue. Another time a Spur Thigh. Know of breeders (colubrids) that could not sell or had poor feeding stock dump them in canals.

Ball pythons were just the next level of the hobby. There was money to spend and people that wanted to get their hands on it. They supplied that need just as colubrid morphs did before them.

The only time money was not that big of a deal was when locale guys would trade herps with other locale people in differnt parts of the Country. Most these days have no clue what wild types once existed in the areas they live in. Whats worse they don't even care.

Which brings me to you Dave. I recall you being very locale specific. I once wanted your specific locale Black Pines. Still have those? What kings are you working with?

And back to Rainier. I recall you having some of the largest, palest canal strain of Brooksi I ever saw. Still produce those?

These are the types of herps that catch my eye. Show me a Chain King right from South Jersey. Heck, even I don't know if they are still there even though I hiked that area during the late 60's early 70's.

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