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Domino and super domino 2013.

zenzinia Sep 18, 2013 02:19 PM

I haven’t been on forums for at least 2 months and did not show most part of the 2013 babies.
I have shown the dominos but did not say what I proved this year.
So, some years ago I bred domino x domino, I noticed that some babies had obvous differences from the others.The second half of the body was different, the connected pattern larger, the sides more or less patternless and virgin bellies.
This year I bred 2 of the possible super domno males to 2 domino females from other domino litter to wild type .
Results, I got 100 % dominos in each litter with about half the litters sharing the pattern of their now proved super domino fathers.
So I can now identified a domino from a super domino, the super forme is very healthy and are good breeders !

Here is a pic of 2013 super domino (mai pics), their characteristics are clearly visible, she still had the babies grey and the colors were wahed out, since she has gain much colors.


Domino.

Super dominos, some have reverses stripes.

Thanks for reading.
Alain.

Replies (5)

ChrisErica Sep 18, 2013 03:11 PM

Geez what beautiful snakes. Exactly what is a domino? The third picture down looks like a key west or a roswell. The first two pictures look like they have jungle and the last few look like super jungles. Whatever they are, they are gorgeous. Thanks for sharing

zenzinia Sep 20, 2013 01:36 PM

No Jungle in them, not related to any of the other CBLT morph. They come from 4 babies that poped out in France in 2004 from a colombian typa bci litter.

Thanks.
Alain H.

Warren_Booth Sep 18, 2013 03:29 PM

These look great. So now, so that you can conclusively address homozygous domino vs. heterozyous domino, you need to breed the "super (homozygous) to an unrelated wild type, produce a complete litter of dominos that lack super appearance.

Very nice,
Warren
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Dr. Warren Booth

USARK - Director

zenzinia Sep 20, 2013 01:06 PM

Thanks, I have planned to breed super domino x unrelated morph or wild type.
I have produced 4 dominos litters x unrelated wild type with an domino average of 50 % but have never have had any dominos with those specific super dominos markers ! But the domino x domino ltter I got about 25% of the babies with those characteristics. When you breed hets of dominante/co dom/incomplete dominante from the same mutation together you get 25 % homozygotes. Since I got that result, I thought they could be the homozygote form of the dominos, not a dominante mutation but incomplete dom or co-dom type .. With a dominante mutation you can’t tell the hets from the homozygotes but with the 2 other you can.
This year by breeding 2 of the possible super dominos males x dominos (females from domino x wild type) I got 100 % dominos in each litter and about 50 % having the markers of their super dominos fathers.
With these results, since in such breedings 50% of the babies are homozygotes (whatever the type of dominante mutation ), what could be the probabibility of them not beeing the super form since such markers had not been found in the 4 previous domino x wild type litter ? Under 0,5, 0,1 %, 0,x %, 00,X %?
I agree, super domino x wild type will be be the ulimate proof, but alone without this years breedings it would not have been a proof to !
At least, they are problem free and I am 99,99 % sure they are the homozygotes, I am not saying 100% because on a pure scientific protocole super domino x unrelated breeding is missing.

Alain H.

UKMotley Sep 27, 2013 02:42 PM

I really like these! Please may I have one?

Great animals!

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