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your thoughts on feeding a snake in shed

AaronBayer Oct 29, 2013 04:57 PM

I've always heard "snakes don't eat while in shed" and yet almost every snake i've ever owned ate while in shed. So i've gone through the years offereing snakes in shed a meal, seeing them eat the meal, and never thinking anything of it because it's never caused any issues with hundreds of snakes of dozens of species.

Well, on another forum I came across a thread where apparently everyone thinks feeding a shedding snake is "powerfeeding" and bad for the animal, and messes up their skin, and a good keeper can tell when a snake is going to shed 2 weeks prior to the snake showing any signs of shedding and stops feeding, etc... etc... all a lot of ideas that seem foolish because they are totally foreign to me.

So, what's everyone's take on this. fine, bad, dangerous, "powerfeeding", let the snake eat when it wants, what?

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thomas davis Oct 29, 2013 05:19 PM

seems silly especially seeing as most snakes will eat daily if supported properly especially kings/getula.
but ftr I have some that will not eat in the blue, but most do/will. ive never heard of it messing up their skin and frankly don't see how that would mess up their skin.
i feed them when they are hungry and sometimes for some individuals that's daily.

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crimsonking Oct 29, 2013 06:00 PM

I can't tell you how many snakes I've found in the wild that have had full bellies and were deep into a shed cycle. If they come across a meal and can manage, they will not refuse. Of course, a wild snake that refuses a meal would be taking a life risking chance but it is my thought that if they will take the meal then it's o.k. by me. Captives can surely be overfed and I will often skip some of mine that are in shed to stretch my available food items but not because I'm worried about them being "powerfed".
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reako45 Oct 31, 2013 12:23 AM

Think a while back Bluerosy said if a king is hungry, feed it. I've fed kings in shed, when they looked hungry.

reako45

FR Oct 31, 2013 09:22 AM

I think you already know the answer, you have been doing it for a long time with many species and no ill effects. That's the answer.

Powerfeeding is a very naïve term. Unless you use a power gun and force food into their stomachs. If they feed on their own, it cannot be considers anything but normal.

What is a problem is under metabolized. That is, the snakes cannot reach temps(which support metabolism) to properly utilize the energy, so they store it as fat.

Also, snakes in nature may not have access to food year around so they do not follow a schedule anything like what most do in captivity. An educated guess is, a normal healthy wild adult colubrid like a corn or king, only requires about 12 feedings a yaar to maintain health and normal body weight. Another difference in nature is, they can lower their metabolism to conserve energy. Which they do year a round. So they do not burn as much energy as captives that are kept at constant warm then constant cool.

Whats missing by most is common sense and a normal base model. All snakes should grow long and thin(not skinny) and bulk up as they reach sexual maturity. They should reach 80% of their total length in the first year or two, then grow some after they become reproductive. That's with good support. A normal model in nature is 50%/50%, That is, they can become sexually reproductive at 50% of their adult length, then continue to grow is supported. If they have good access to food, they can do the 80%/20% as mentioned. What we see in captivity is often is a model based on poor shoe box keeping. While its understandable for commercial breeders to use minimal housing, its not logical for the average keeper to keep animals in such minimal conditions, muchless make rules based on SHOEBOX style husbandry.

AaronBayer Oct 31, 2013 12:29 PM

Well said, Frank

and yes, i thought i knew the answer, just wanted to ask what in my opinion is a better grade of snake keepers on this forum since i was the black sheep at another forum.

I agree completely with your opinion of shoebox keeing as well. i've recently started making a move to house all of my animals in larger less ventilated cages (Boaphiles) in an attempt to go at least 1 step further in offering them a more natural set up... more room, bigger thrm grad, and cut down on constant dehydration most captive snakes endure. tho i understand why some people use the shoe boxes... big fancy cages are costing me a fortune.

kh70 Nov 03, 2013 10:07 AM

There is no harm feeding a snake in shed but I've found a larger meal to a snake deep in shed results in dented or sometimes creased looking scales. Usually just the last 1/3 of the body where the food bolus is digested. It sheds out after one maybe two sheds. Overall I believe it's safe to feed anytime the snake wants to eat. Just if they are in shed I'll not push it when it comes to prey size.

Keith

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