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i have a male rottweiler still young only 7 months, he comes from a respectable bloodline and i was looking for information on how to breed , i do not intend to do so soon or maybe never will but it would be a great help if i could get as much info as possible on this subject, he has suck a good look to him by all the standards i have seen he is close to perfect, and his temperment very attentive and outgoing and as calm as you will find , i would hate to see these traits just end with him , any information that can be found would be a wonderful help , thanks so mcuh

Hello, welcome to the board!

Where did you get your Rottie? Typically, when someone obtains a breeding quality Rottweiler, it's not a surprise to them or the breeder. If you have a stud dog who has something to contribute to the breed, the breeder would be the best person to mentor you, and the only one who could realistically arrange to have nice bitches sent to your dog.

No one who is involved in a serious way with the breed will be interested in your dog unless he has been tested in some arena such as the show ring or some form of performance. Since Rotties are not my breed, I don't know specifically what would be the kinds of titles and tests that would bring decent bitches your way. Hopefully someone else on this board will.

In addition, no good bitch will come to your dog unless he has passed the standard health clearances for your breed.

Next, no matter how nice he is, if his parents, littermates, and other ancestors aren't also quite nice and well-known, no one with a good bitch will want to breed to him, because there is no way to judge if he himself has nice traits or if he has GOOD GENES. Breeding is not about what your dog IS, it's about what your dog PASSES ON. He might be "perfect" and very nice and wonderful, but if he doesn't come from a long line of nice looking wonderful dogs, and doesn't produce nice looking wonderful dogs, then it doesn't matter from a breeding point of view.

If your dog doesn't have those things, then the only bitches who will be bred to him will be mediocre or even poor bitches, owned by people who don't really know anything about the breed and aren't involved in it an any serious way. That means that your dog's ability to pass on his nice qualities will be seriously limited, because of course the dog and bitch each contribute half the genetic material. So your dog's nice qualities might well be lost beause he was not able to attract a compatible, high quality bitch, and/or the breeding was not analyzed by someone who really knew the breed and the lines involved. You say one of his qualities is his temperamant - in fact, temperament can be just as much a product of environment as genetics, and in that case the mother of the puppies will have more influence on their temperament than the father will.

If you got your dog from someone who is involved in showing and working their Rottweilers, then that person is who you need to turn to now for advice.

If you got your dog from someone who is not involved in showing or working their Rottweilers, then most likely your dog is not breeding quality, no matter how nice he is or how much you love him. Most likely you won't be able to get enough information from that person to make an informed breeding decision, because they will not have the health histories and other information to help you evaluate his pedigree. You literally cannot know how good a dog is, or what traits he might pass on, unless you can analyze the pedigree.
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Christie Keith
Caber Feidh Scottish Deerhounds
Holistic Husbandry since 1986
www.caberfeidh.com/

Thank you Chistie,
I think you covered just about everything. Mostly per most all Rottweiler clubs "Code of Ethics" for breeders a dog shall not be bred till after the age of 2 and has health clearances. Mainly you can not get an OFA rating and clearance on the hips and elbows till the age of 2.
As for titles, well I would be looking for a minimum of an AKC championship and passing the American Temperament Test and a CGC. I would prefer it also have a CD in obedience. If the person decides to show in the German style shows it would need multiple V ratings and a minimum of a BH.
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Val.
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PCF Deerhounds is right, phenotype is important but genotype is equally if not more important. Knowing what is behind the dog, what parents and grandparents produced. Sisters and brothers perhaps.
Also, this is a very young dog, a puppy still, anything can change. I once bought a beautiful bitch puppy, she was everything I would wanted in a puppy, but she didn't look anything I would have bought when she was almost 2 years old.
Where did you get this puppy? What are his blood lines? Is the breeder willing to mentor you?
You still have a lot of time to learn about the different diseases that plague this breed, show and work this dog, learn about the many different health testing that need to be done prior to breeding, bitches and dogs alike!
What is your experience in Rottweilers?? How well do you know the pedigree of this puppy and the dogs in this pedigree????
I am sure your puppy is beautiful, but how does he stack up against other puppies his age? Take him to match shows, learn the showring, there is so much to do other than breeding your dog. Use him to promote the good in this breed and show people that they are not the vicious killers they are made out to be.
Also, are you aware of how full Rottweiler rescues are with returned and unwanted Rottweilers? How many of them are euthanized because there are not enough GOOD homes with knowledgable owners out there? Are you willing to care for the puppies of this dog for the rest of their lives? Do you realize that you need to require the same of the bitches owner?
A lot of stud owners think their dogs are only sperm providers, but just like a human man is responsible for his offspring, you are equally responsible for the offspring of your dog.
Don't think I am trying to patronize you, I really don't, I just want to point out that there is so much more to breeding sound, healthy, correct and wonderful Rottweilers than letting a bitch and a dog mate and wait 63 days to see how many puppies were produced.
Ask questions, talk to people, use the breeder of this dog as your mentor, if it is a responsible breeder that is. Set your goals high, way high as we have too many Rottweilers dying every day because of people breeding poor Rotties.
Never breed for profit, only to improve the breed!
Dagmar

>>i have a male rottweiler still young only 7 months
he comes from a respectable bloodline
it would be a great help if i could get as much info as possible on this subject
he is close to .... If you have questions as you go along, please do not hesitate to email me. But even if you decide not to breed, get this boy out! <G> Start showing, dog carting, sheep herding, SOMETHING to get you and him invovled in the dog world.

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WHAT YOU NEED TO READ BEFORE YOU BREED
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So You Want To Use Your Dog At Stud
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/woodhaven/stud.html

and for a rather humorous response to studding... but pretty accurate!
>>>>TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN,

HI. IM LOOKING TO BREED MY 3YR. OLD PUG (insert other breed here) JAKE.
HE IS PAPERED, IM LOOKING TO HAVE HIM FIXED SOON BUT I WOULD
LIKE ONE OF HIS NAMESAKE TO CARRY ON HIS NAME. IM NOT LOOKING
FOR MONEY BUT I WOULD LIKE ONE OF THE PUPS. PLEASE GET I TOUCH WITH ME MAYBE WE CAN TALK. MAYBE YOU CAN PUT ME IN TOUCH
WITH SOME ONE WHO CAN. THANK-YOU

Hi Gossimer,

This proposal sounds intriguing. I'm currently looking for a fawn stud for
my BISS Ch Larimar's Stardust CD, CGC (BIS/BISS Ch Larimar's Chip of
the Old Block ROM*** x Ch Jill's Win-Chimes of Lil Mite ROM***).

What line is Jake from and what is his percentage/ratio for
linebreeding/inbreeding/cofactor? I apologize; but I'm not familiar with
his callname.

I'll need to know Jake's CERF, OFA patella luxation and OFA CHD
certification numbers, T3 & T4 test results, number of occurrences of
hemivertebrae, PDE, and cleft palate through the fifth generation. Just to
be on the safe side, I'll need a negative brucellosis and bordetella
licensed veterinarian certification from you. It's not a bad idea to get a
VetGen phenotyping either.

For the future Get, I'll also need copies of Jake's titles and his AKC
and/or CKC registration number(s). I'm especially interested in copies of
his PDCA ROM and additional stars awards.

Since there's no stud fee involved, I assume you'll want pick? Dog or
bitch? Will you be willing to agree to 1/2 the cesearean if
the cause should arise? If the whelps are larger than 6 ounces at
partrition, it will be necessary. This seems only fair. Last time I got a
good break and it was only $500, but unfortunately that vet retired this
year and the new owner has raised everything to almost double! It's hard to
find a good pug vet!

Will you be doing a natural or artificial? If artificial, I'll need you
to send the frozen semen Overnight Express Mail. I'll be willing to split
the cost; $500 should cover it unless you are on the East
Coast, then I'll send $750. Please let me know where to send the check. I
think it's only fair that you take care of the semen analysis expense since
I will be doing the whelping and training. You should be able to find a
Canine Semen Bank and Collection/Storage in your area. Be sure to get at
least three vials. The last time I looked into having it done, it was about
$900.00--a lot less than before since more and more people are doing it.

If Jake does natural, let me know which airport to ship to (if you are
outside of CA). To take care of my dam, I'll need to have an
overnight or early, early morning delivery time. Since it's getting warmer
now, it's best to plan for you to pick her up after midnight. Even with a
cool down mat you never know with these brachceapholoids ( I probably
mispelt that, but you know what I mean! . Be sure to take MC/VISA or
cash since the counter-to-counter service does not accept checks. Let me
know after they tie three times and then I will let you know the return
arrangements. She ovulates late, so she may be two or three weeks at your
house. I'll get her to you by the tenth day just to be sure we don't miss it or
she absorbs.

Double check with your home owners insurance plan to see
that it covers visiting matrons in case anything should happen. A BISS
CH/CD/CGC should be covered for a minimum of $5K.

Since her cycle is so late, you'll need to purchase Solid Gold. I
can't send enough in the crate. It generally runs $40 a bag Be sure to
get the Seameal, Pet Tabs Plus, Concept-A-Bitch, and Red
Raspberry Tea Leaves too. Also, she'll need 500 mg. of Ascorbic Acid, 200
mg. of Tocopheryls twice a day with tepid water. Not too hot because she
will grow finicky.

Be careful not to give her A palmitate since this can increase
the chance of cleft palate and I don't want to have to cull.
It's a good idea to give her organically grown-pesticide free calf
liver. You'll need to prepare it yourself since she doesn't like
pre-packaged brands. It's best to buy it in 50 lb. bulk and
boil it all at once. Be sure to keep skimming the foam off every 15
minutes because she doesn't like it slimy. Bake it afterwards until it's a
good baiting consistency then vacuum-pack and freeze it. The whole process
should only take about 12 hours. In a hurry you could get it down to 10
hours.

You won't have to worry about splitting the vaccination costs for the
litter. I give my own now and that will save you half of
the normal $480 or so. You can help out with the title rebates if you'd
like.

Your pick should be ready at 12 weeks. I'll let you know the whelping date
so that you can plan the transportation. I assume you already own a Sherpa?
That's the best way to go if you're out of CA, otherwise you can drive to
pick it up--just bring along a Vari-Kennel.

What are your club affiliates? I don't recognize your email address off the
top of my head. I'm DPCA, PDCA, NCPC. If you're not PDCA, we can work
on getting you your two letters of recommendation.

Well, let me know when you have all the necessary paperwork done. Also,
please send me Jake's AKC certified 4 generation with coat
colors and his best win shots so that I can make colored copies.

Thanks to:

Dorothy K. Christiansen, Lynnlea Shelties
ASSA Rescue Network Coordinator

Lysa
Please help save a life! Puppymillrescue & Puppy Mills
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Debra
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Blessed Are The Flexible For They
Shall Not Be Bent Out of Shape.]

HELP! What the heck is wrong! Again, it left out part of my post! FORTUNATELY I copied it before I hit send!

here is the section it left out!:

Where did you get him? If he is from a RESPONSIBLE breeder, you wouldn't be here most likely because they would have a contract with you stating what MUST be done before he can be bred... things like health testing, titles, etc.

Here are some links, the 2nd with TONS of links on health issues and testing and genetics. Start reading. <G> If you have questions as you go along, please do not hesitate to email me. But even if you decide not to breed, get this boy out! <G> Start showing, dog carting, sheep herding, SOMETHING to get you and him invovled in the dog world.
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Debra
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Blessed Are The Flexible For They
Shall Not Be Bent Out of Shape.]

Best place to start: YOUR BREEDER!!!!!

Tests to run: OFA, Heart I believe, look into the bloodlines for cancer(I wouldn't breed a dog that had a lot of young dogs dying of cancer), but the best place to start is YOUR BREEDER!!
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PHBorzoi

Mielikki's Hunt Borzoi
http://www.mielikkishunt.com

Treasure the past, don't mourn it.
A balanced dog has a title on both ends.

>>Best place to start: YOUR BREEDER!!!!!
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Debra
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Blessed Are The Flexible For They
Shall Not Be Bent Out of Shape.]

>>i have a male rottweiler still young only 7 months, he comes from a respectable bloodline and i was looking for information on how to breed , i do not intend to do so soon or maybe never will but it would be a great help if i could get as much info as possible on this subject, he has suck a good look to him by all the standards i have seen he is close to perfect, and his temperment very attentive and outgoing and as calm as you will find , i would hate to see these traits just end with him , any information that can be found would be a wonderful help , thanks so mcuh>>>

One thing I didn't see mentioned in the other answers, so I'll just add to their good information. The temperament of a dog at 7 months is not the temperament you will see in that dog as an adult. This is puppy temperament, not yet matured by the effects of, first puberty, and then adulthood. The temperament around age 3 years is a better indication of the real temperament of an adult male dog of a large breed. Between now and then, there is lots and lots of training for you to do!
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Kathy Diamond Davis, author, "Therapy Dogs: Training Your Dog to Reach Others," 2nd edition, and the free Canine Behavior Series at www.veterinaryforum.com

actually i do know somewhat of his pedigree as i am soon expecting it from the akc, i do know who the breeders are but it is unlikly that they would mentor me ,he is a pro football player and him and his wife breed rots though this is the dams first litter, understandably he wouldn't have much time for mentoring.i know its a long time before he would be able to breed i just wanted to get a head start, at lease a 1 year and 5 month head start, thank you everyone for all the info its much appreciated, if there is anything else i should know please post or e mail me at akadude123@aol.com , thanks again

>>actually i do know somewhat of his pedigree as i am soon expecting it from the akc,

By "knowing" the pedigree, what we mean is knowing the dogs in the pedigree, knowing what traits they possessed and what traits their offspring possessed, and of course, what their health and temperaments were like. Without this knowledge, a pedigree is no use to a breeder.

>> i do know who the breeders are but it is unlikly that they would mentor me ,he is a pro football player and him and his wife breed rots though this is the dams first litter, understandably he wouldn't have much time for mentoring.

I think the best thing then is to seek out the breeders of the sire or dam, or someone else in your area who has dogs of these lines and is involved with the breed. Go to shows, get to know people, bring your dog out to matches, get involved with local Rottweiler activities, and find a knowledgeable mentor.

It is good you are thinking ahead.
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Christie Keith
Caber Feidh Scottish Deerhounds
Holistic Husbandry since 1986
www.caberfeidh.com/

>>actually i do know somewhat of his pedigree as i am soon expecting it from the akc, i do know who the breeders are but it is unlikly that they would mentor me ,he is a pro football player and him and his wife breed rots though this is the dams first litter
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Debra
ebraDownSth@aol.com" target="_blank">DebraDownSth@aol.com
Blessed Are The Flexible For They
Shall Not Be Bent Out of Shape.]