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What To Do About Shedding?

psychobil Oct 02, 2003 03:55 AM

My rott is a year old. She's been a house dog since she was about a month old. She always sleeps in the house and stays in the house while we're gone.
I can't handle her shedding anymore. I've got a big backyard with grass and all but she's used to sleeping in the house and being in the house a lot. I'm trying to keep her out at night but all she has to do is look at me with those beautiful eyes and she's back in.
My question is...will she eventually get used to sleeping outside? And also, is there anything (shampoo or whatever) that will stop or make her not shed as much?

Thanks!

Replies (11)

second_hand_rose Oct 02, 2003 11:15 AM

Hey I think I might be able to help you out.

Your girl will get used to staying outside- its just that she's learned that if you give "mom" the sad eyes you get all the comforts of living indoors. And who blames her right?

We are currently teaching - I say this lightly - our 6 month old rotti Raum to sleep outdoors at night. We live in a neighbour hood where it wasnt in our best interest to keep him outdoors at night when he was little and cute. But now that he's almost 70 pounds of puppy and the fact that soon winter is comming and I dont want all the wet dog mess and smell and hair in my house anymore !!

She'll cry for the first while. Raum still does this its been a week but you have to be tough. They'll stop soon though once you stay firm on the idea that NO you cannot come inside. If you cave which happens .. guilty as charged here too... it'll take longer to make them quite down and stay out.

As for shampoos I belive they make some. As for how they work I think they're not worth the money. Try if you want I used to work in a dog kennel and we tried this method on a few dogs that had come in to try to make them more sell-able to people and the results werent that great. And the shampoo is fairly expensive If i remeber correctly.

One thing though brush brush brush thats really the only thing I can suggest for keeping hair shedding down, you'll still find hair everywhere though I do.

OKay enough rambling hope this helps you out a bit..

good luck

Christa

psychobil Oct 02, 2003 07:34 PM

Thank you so much for your response. I feel a lot better now that I know she will get used to being outside. I just didn't want to be mean to her which I kinda still think I am. We do live in Southern California so it doesn't get too cold here at night in the winter and we have a big covered patio with a extra large dog bed. She's a very good dog and very much loved by us. It's just me and my boyfriend living here and she get's so much love and we play with her almost daily. Of course, we are around her daily cause we smoke outside in the backyard. I think I'm just going on and on to convince myself I'm not abandoning her. I just feel bad, that's all. But like you said, she will get used to it.

Thanks again,
Bil

VAL911K9 Oct 03, 2003 10:51 AM

Please rethink having your dog sleep outside at night. Rotties temperaments are such that they do best if kept in the house as part of your family to interact with people at all times. Rotties of all ages are commonly stolen to use as bait dogs for dog fighting and also with so many people dilsiking the breed they could easily be harmed or posioned if left unattended in a yard. If you get a crate for them to sleep in, in the house that will help contain the hair to one area. We put our crates in the bedroom with a sheet over them and use them as night stands. Also a horse stripping brush works quite well - it looks like a thin piece of metal with little teeth cut into one side.
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Quest - the otherweiler (DDB)
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psychobil Oct 04, 2003 01:38 AM

So I should maybe keep her in at night to sleep then put her out in the morning till night? I don't understand.

VAL911K9 Oct 04, 2003 10:38 AM

I am saying the dog should be with the family most of the time, where ever they are inside or out. The rottie temperament does not do well living on it's own. They will usually become destructive, which is their way of finding something to keep them occupied. Experienced rottie owners will have the dog with them in the house and they will be outside only for exercise and to potty, even then they are supervised to protect the dog. There are alot of people that would throw something over the fence to poison a rottie if given a chance. A rottie needs to interact with people all it's life not just as a puppy. This is just part of taking on the responsibilty of owning a rottie.
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Val.
proudly owned by
Majic the Rotten
Purl - the Nottweiler (Dogue de Bordeaux)
Quest - the otherweiler (DDB)
Chrissy & Tina who have earned their wings

Brandysmom Oct 05, 2003 06:53 AM

>>I am saying the dog should be with the family most of the time, where ever they are inside or out. This is just part of taking on the responsibilty of owning a rottie.
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>>Val.
Rotties are very pack oriented. Unless you plan to sleep outside with the dog forget it. His place is in the home with you.
As for the shedding. Use the shed rake Val mentioned. You can find them in most pet departments/stores. Use it everyday outside and you can just let the hair fly. Also try adding some vitamin E to your dog's diet. sometimes they have an alergic reaction to the food you're feeding them. Hooch'es skin gets real flaky and he shed's a ton if he's on just kibble for too long so I try to give my kids BARF as much as possible.
Before putting the dog out for alone overnighters, try these other possibilities first. Please?
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psychobil Oct 05, 2003 08:03 PM

You wrote....

'A rottie needs to interact with people all it's life not just as a puppy. This is just part of taking on the responsibilty of owning a rottie...'

I don't like you insinuating (sp.) that I don't interact with my dog just because she is not a puppy anymore. I love my dog and I spend more time with her than anybody I know that has dogs. I'm a very responsible person which is why I have posted this question in this forum.

Maybe I need to go to another forum where I'm not judged. Maybe you should get to know me first!

VAL911K9 Oct 05, 2003 09:43 PM

I don't like you insinuating (sp.) that I don't interact with my dog just because she is not a puppy anymore.

I am sorry if this bothered you, but I was stateing my opinion to the questions you asked. As with any public board there may be opinions that you do not want to hear, just pass over them.
I do not pass judgments on people I do not know, and was only going on what information you had given.
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Val.
proudly owned by
Majic the Rotten
Purl - the Nottweiler (Dogue de Bordeaux)
Quest - the otherweiler (DDB)
Chrissy & Tina who have earned their wings

psychobil Oct 05, 2003 11:41 PM

>>>I do not pass judgments on people I do not know, and was only going on what information you had given.

KDiamondDavis Oct 05, 2003 10:27 AM

>>My rott is a year old. She's been a house dog since she was about a month old. She always sleeps in the house and stays in the house while we're gone.
>>I can't handle her shedding anymore. I've got a big backyard with grass and all but she's used to sleeping in the house and being in the house a lot. I'm trying to keep her out at night but all she has to do is look at me with those beautiful eyes and she's back in.
>>My question is...will she eventually get used to sleeping outside? And also, is there anything (shampoo or whatever) that will stop or make her not shed as much?
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>>Thanks!

I notice you got several answers to this, and I hope you'll be keeping your dog indoors with the family. Besides being better for her, it puts her where she could actually protect you and alert you to danger at night. It also will help the shedding! Outdoor dogs shed more!

To deal with shedding, here's a great routine. Whenever you bathe the dog, add back the natural oils that have been removed. My favorite product is a hypoallergenic human bath oil called Alpha Keri. I'm not sure it's still around, but if not, another hypoallergenic bath oil would do. Must be hypoallergenic, because dog skin has the same type of reactivity as human lung tissue! Bath oil was designed to mix with water. Put about 1/4 cup of the bath oil into a 1 pint spray bottle, and fill up the rest of the way with water. After a bath or any time the skin is dry, spray the dog with this and rub it in with your hands.

A warm bath loosens the hair and is a good way to help with heavy shedding times. Right now your dog may be shedding extra, changing from a puppy coat to an adult coat and also possibly around the time of a first heat. Plus her undercoat could be shedding out to make way for a fresh winter coat. She probably won't shed this much in the future, unless you don't spay her, or unless you keep her outside. Outdoor dogs have to change coat more than house dogs do. House dogs mostly shed a little at a time.

A curry groomer is a great aid for shedding in short-haired dogs. It's made of rubber and probably will cost around $10. The dog loves the way it feels. Use it in a circular motion to remove the most loose hair.

On a daily basis for upkeep, use either your hands or a curry groomer to work through her entire coat each day. This time put in with your dog has a lot of other benefits, too: better bonding, better obedience, dog more tolerant of all kinds of touch, faster to find health problems, better health of skin and coat. I make this neater by taking a bed sheet and tying it around my neck and draping it out over my lap as I sit with outstretched legs. I get the dog on my legs/lap, and groom the dog where the sheet catches all the loose hair. As needed, usually once a week, I launder the sheet separately so the hair doesn't spread to other wash.

Occasionally you might need to use a Greyhound comb or other tool on the more heavily-coated areas, around neck and hindquarters, to help some of that loose hair work its way out. This will probably be, for a house dog, around April, July and October.

A dog who spends nights outside is going to be dirtier, smellier, and less pleasant to touch. A dog who lives in the house with the family can be kept clean and huggable with a time investment of something like 15 minutes a day. This is enjoyable, productive time with your dog, and once you get into the routine you can easily do it while watching TV or talking on the phone using a headset.
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Kathy Diamond Davis, author, "Therapy Dogs: Training Your Dog to Reach Others," 2nd edition, and the free Canine Behavior Series at www.veterinaryforum.com

PHRottn Oct 07, 2003 08:52 PM

I've tried to post to this thread 3 times now, hope this one takes, LOL!!

First I would like to say that I don't feel it's necessary to get up at arms here. Nobody is passing judgement on anyone!! I'm sure that you misunderstood Val's response. She's not one to make judgements on people. Val is a well respected member of our Dog community and is a great resource to draw from on health, behavior and training issues with your Rottie.

Here's a couple of facts. These are absolute facts nothing more. 1) Grooming is the best way to keep the shedding to a minimum, however.... Rotties shed!! No other way to say it, Rotties shed!! Constantly and the only thing you can do about it is accept it or find a good home for your dog that can deal with the shedding.
2) Rotties should never be considered outside dogs. When you cannot be at home with them they should be crated. When you are home and can watch what they are doing all the time them they should be let out of the crate to be with the family. I do let my Rotties go out in the yard without me, (this should only be done if you have a fence no less than 6' high but higher than that is preferred) but I know they can't get out of the yard and I only leave them out alone for short periods of time. If I can't see them then they have to come in or I go out.
3) Rotties get bored very easily and they are chewers. If your Rottie gets bored it's guaranteed she will chew your stuff up! They will eat your porch, yard furniture, dig up your yard, chew the garden hose, they will chew anything they can get their mouths on. That's why it's important to keep them crated when you can't be with them and to be able to watch them when they are not in the crate.
4) Rotties need training from the time they are old enough to walk and continually need it reinforced through their whole lives. Putting a Rottie outdoors and not keeping her as a constant member and companion of the family unit is simply creating an opportunity for disaster. It's Rotties that are not trained and are kept outdoors alone that end up escaping and either getting killed or injuring people.

There is so much more information that you should have about your Rottweiler. Please don't hesitate to come here and ask for advice..... you'll find a plethora of valuable info.

Good luck with your girl, she's a beauty and she will be a great companion for you if you are a companion for her.
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