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tclay Oct 14, 2003 12:15 PM

I have a 10 month BC that has a temperment problem and hope someone can answer some questions for me.
She bit me 3 times when there were other dogs around (only when she’s on a leash)
If she’s off the leash, she will just bark and play with them.
She was actually foaming at the mouth and jumping going crazy wanting to get that other dog.
She also walks around whining ALL the time non stop. We are always playing with her and throwing the ball for her and letting her run but the minute we stop, she starts whining again. Is that from being spoiled???
We took her to training classes and tried different collars and that did not seem to help.
I am taking her back to classes to try and break her of this habit before she bites someone
Else.
Is there anything I can do to help her ?
Do all BC’s act this way when they are young? Will she grow out of it?

Please, any info will be appreciated!

Replies (5)

KDiamondDavis Oct 14, 2003 03:42 PM

>>I have a 10 month BC that has a temperment problem and hope someone can answer some questions for me.
>>She bit me 3 times when there were other dogs around (only when she’s on a leash)
>>If she’s off the leash, she will just bark and play with them.
>>She was actually foaming at the mouth and jumping going crazy wanting to get that other dog.
>>She also walks around whining ALL the time non stop. We are always playing with her and throwing the ball for her and letting her run but the minute we stop, she starts whining again. Is that from being spoiled???
>>We took her to training classes and tried different collars and that did not seem to help.
>>I am taking her back to classes to try and break her of this habit before she bites someone
>>Else.
>>Is there anything I can do to help her ?
>>Do all BC’s act this way when they are young? Will she grow out of it?
>>
>>Please, any info will be appreciated!
>>

This sounds like redirected aggression when the dog is on leash, overstimulated, and turns and bites at you out of frustration at the restraint. Try a head halter (have a private lesson to learn how to use it safely). I like the Halti, because if you train yourself and your dog to loose-leash handling. The tightening of the Halti when your dog lunges or you lift your hand holding the leash higher than the dog's head will close the dog's mouth, painlessly. This avoids arousing the dog even further, and helps her learn to control her impulses better.

Lots and lots of good training is needed with a dog this high-powered. Biting you is certainly not a good sign. You need to work on bite inhibition with her. A good trainer or behavior specialist can help you with this. I teach my dogs a positive command of "Close Your Mouth," with gentle, upbeat, but firm and very consistent handling. Over time--it takes several months or longer to be near 100% inhibition--they learn to never put teeth on human skin at all. This type of conditioning avoids the risk of making the dog worse that can happen when you use harsh corrections to stop the mouthing/biting.

A pinch collar in particular is not a good idea with a dog who behaves this way. It aggravates the defense drives and at the same time does not allow you to stop her from biting. You need a more calming training collar with a dog like this. I'd put her in a head halter for awhile, starting very soon. You might not always need it, but using it sooner rather than later, and using it for as long as necessary to get the bad habits to fade, is your best bet. Do not jerk on the leash when a dog is wearing a head halter, and do not use a long line with a head halter. It can put a powerful whiplash action on the neck.
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Kathy Diamond Davis, author, "Therapy Dogs: Training Your Dog to Reach Others," 2nd edition, and the free Canine Behavior Series at www.veterinaryforum.com

tclay Oct 15, 2003 05:38 AM

Thank You VERY much!!!I will speak to her trainer Saturday about the head halter.
I called her and she is going to help me with her again (free of charge) to correct this problem.
Thank You again!

CharStuff Oct 16, 2003 04:37 PM

>>Thank You VERY much!!!I will speak to her trainer Saturday about the head halter.
>>I called her and she is going to help me with her again (free of charge) to correct this problem.
>>Thank You again!

Wow! Great info as always Kathy, I also want to commend you the owner of this BC for being patient and requesting help and going to a trainer! I have a BC and she is a wonderful dog. I did have to train her NOT to HERD my son while riding his scooter and bicyle by nipping at his heals. Good luck to you and please write back to tell us how things are going.
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Charlene

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Adopt the pace of Nature
Her secret is patience

-Ralph Waldo Emerson-

tclay Oct 17, 2003 05:43 AM

Thank You!
Casey tries hurding my son also when on his bike and scooter. (And my cat I might add)
How did you get her to stop that?
It's funny because I had a long talk with her after she bit me acouple days ago and she has been acting better. Almost like she
understood what I said to her...hehe
I will keep you posted on her progress...
Thank You again for your help!

CharStuff Oct 18, 2003 06:29 PM

>>Thank You!
>>Casey tries hurding my son also when on his bike and scooter. (And my cat I might add)
>>How did you get her to stop that?
>>It's funny because I had a long talk with her after she bit me acouple days ago and she has been acting better. Almost like she
>>understood what I said to her...hehe
>>I will keep you posted on her progress...
>>Thank You again for your help!
>>
>>

Your very welcome! And you are very right they do understand because they are very intellegent! The way I got my BC gal to stop herding my son was to have my son stop immediately when she tried to herd him, have him clap his hands really loud and say STOP! It only took a few times but we had to be consistant. Also, I have found that giving them another job like fetching a ball or fav toy really helps also
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Charlene

My Email

Adopt the pace of Nature
Her secret is patience

-Ralph Waldo Emerson-

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