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This is my new baby, Jill, she is 8 weeks olf BC/JRT - lol. I have anotehr JRT called Jack so now have Jack and Jill. She is a stubborn toileter. Was outside for nearly an hour at 4am and she still wouldn't wee. I have bought a crate today so I can confine her but not sure how this crating works. Jack is very good with her but I wouldn't want to risk leaving her alone with him in the house. When Jack was a pup he weed every time I took him out but Jill seems to be able to hold hers for hours and doesn't have any set time, same for pooping. Any help re the crate thingw ould be appreciated

>>Hi
>>This is my new baby, Jill, she is 8 weeks olf BC/JRT - lol. I have anotehr JRT called Jack so now have Jack and Jill. She is a stubborn toileter. Was outside for nearly an hour at 4am and she still wouldn't wee. I have bought a crate today so I can confine her but not sure how this crating works. Jack is very good with her but I wouldn't want to risk leaving her alone with him in the house. When Jack was a pup he weed every time I took him out but Jill seems to be able to hold hers for hours and doesn't have any set time, same for pooping. Any help re the crate thingw ould be appreciated
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The crate is only for when you cannot supervise the dog. Overcrating is a common problem, so have her out with you whenever you can possibly truly WATCH her.

Crate time should be a maximum of no more than the dog's age in months plus one. In other words, never crate a 2 month old puppy longe than 3 hours at any one time, a 3 month puppy for any more than 4 hours at one time, etc. Up to 8 hours. Don't crate a dog of any age longer than 8 hours.

The idea is for the pup to sleep when crated. Do not go to the dog when she is making noise. That teaches her to scream for someone to come let her out of the crate and often leads to a lifetime of freaking out and fighting the restraint when crated.

During sleep the need to urinate and defecate is temporarily suppressed, but the body has to catch up when the pup is awake. So take the pup out every hour when you are at home and awake--plus of course every other time the dog gives signs of needing to go out.

It helps to put the crate in your bedroom at night and in the room with you during the day so that the puppy doesn't have to get used to the crate and to being alone all at the same time.

Be sure that the puppy's needs are met before crating and that you take the pup out for needs before the puppy has to ask. Crating can save a dog's life at various times, so you want to create a calm foundation for a dog to be able to relax in the crate lifelong. If you let the pup out of the crate when she makes noise, the whole process will take longer and put more stress on her.
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Kathy Diamond Davis, author, "Therapy Dogs: Training Your Dog to Reach Others," 2nd edition, and the free Canine Behavior Series at www.veterinaryforum.com

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Thankyou very much that is very helpful. I never leave my dog over long anyway, I don't go out to work so can be home with them all day apart from when I have to go out. I take her out every hour and each time after waking and 20 min after eating but its not working at the moment, more good luck that she goes when we happen to be out. of course I praise her ver well when she does perform. I Have been using the crate as her basket with the door open so she will feel comfortable in it, is this ok?

>>Hi
>>Thankyou very much that is very helpful. I never leave my dog over long anyway, I don't go out to work so can be home with them all day apart from when I have to go out. I take her out every hour and each time after waking and 20 min after eating but its not working at the moment, more good luck that she goes when we happen to be out. of course I praise her ver well when she does perform. I Have been using the crate as her basket with the door open so she will feel comfortable in it, is this ok?
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That is a very good way to let a dog get used to being comfortable with a crate, yes.

Dogs are usually 16 weeks old, and often quite a bit older, before they have complete bowel and bladder control to even be able to be fully housetrained. That's just the physical part--the mental part can take longer. It takes patience. Think of it as helping your dog hit the right target. Make it a team effort, don't punish her for mistakes, and it can be the start of a great relationship.
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Kathy Diamond Davis, author, "Therapy Dogs: Training Your Dog to Reach Others," 2nd edition, and the free Canine Behavior Series at www.veterinaryforum.com

Hi Pauline,

Jill is super cute!! How neat to name them Jack and Jill.

I don't have any suggestions for puppy training. I've never owned a puppy. Maybe someday when I retire and can stay home to train.

Good luck with her!
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>>Hi
>>This is my new baby, Jill, she is 8 weeks olf BC/JRT - lol. I have anotehr JRT called Jack so now have Jack and Jill. She is a stubborn toileter. Was outside for nearly an hour at 4am and she still wouldn't wee. I have bought a crate today so I can confine her but not sure how this crating works. Jack is very good with her but I wouldn't want to risk leaving her alone with him in the house. When Jack was a pup he weed every time I took him out but Jill seems to be able to hold hers for hours and doesn't have any set time, same for pooping. Any help re the crate thingw ould be appreciated
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What a darling puppy! Wow! a BC/JRT mix, I'm thinking you will have a very active puppy on your hands! LOL! I use a crate with my dogs and its like a home away from home. Kathy gives great advice. Keep things positive. I gotta add that my BC gal is like a Camel as far as releaving herself goes. I have noticed that most BC's don't like to releave themselves very often especially when they are being watched. . .
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Edited on January 5, 2004 at 11:12:29 by CharStuff.

LOL thankyou for that, what have I let myself in for. I was getting quite worked up about the toileting business but have calmed down now since reading all the replies and she is responding well to me not being so stressed. Boy she has some energy. Little as she is she gives my 3 year old JRT a run for his money - lol and he is so good with her. Scares me when they are playing as he can put her whole head in his mouth but he never closes his mouth on her even when she hangs onto his tail or his cheeks - lol. He won't go near when she is eating and when he is eating she runs over to see what he's got and he backs off so I don't think I have anything to worry about with him getting nasty with her. She has been great at night in the crate next to my bed. Last night she woke at 2-30 and I took her out and she did wees straight away then I put her back in and she went back to sleep again. Here is her and jack having a tug of war, their favourite game