Hi,
> I`d love some imput here. I have a 7month (edging on 8)male Newf. He came
> to me trained to paper, not to crate. Crate training was a loosing
> battle. He never stopped barking, peed and pooped in it (and all over
> himself as a result). This went on for weeks without any improvement. I
> finally gave in, and put paper down ontop of a plastic crate tray on the
> floor in a corner he would constantly picked to do his business. He is
> walked at least 6 times a day, There are times he does not do a thing no
> matter HOW long I am out there walking him back and forth at the areas he
> DOES at other times do his business. Needless to say, I give up , bring
> him in, and sure enough he goes on the tray with the paper. If there is
> no paper in the tray, he will go in the tray anyway. If there is no tray
> in the corner, and there is paper somewhere on the floor, he will go on
> the paper. If there is neither, he will go anywhere. If the tray and
> paper is down for him, he can havre the whole 1st floor of the house, and
> he will make sure to do his business on the tray. I am so torn, for I am
> afraid if I remove the tray, he will start going anywhere and everywhere,
> for he IS VERY good with using that tray. Imput from those who have been
> there and suceeded would be greatly appreciated. Should I just give him
> more time and hope he`ll just grow up on his own? My girls(newfs) were
> much quicker when it came to housebreaking. Is it more a boy thing too?
>

