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Hey...when i was very young we had a doberman that was all tan..not rust and tan...just all tan...this was about 17 years ago, and I have never seen another one since...I was wondering if anyone else has seen these, and if anyone breeds them? I am interested in getting another doberman, and i either want an all tan, or ALL BLACK one.....does anyone breed Dobs for all black..I have seen them before..but I cant find anything online about them..thanks

Chris

An all black Doberman has melanism. An all tan Doberman would be flavistic, I believe. No one who cares about the Doberman breed and the Doberman standard would be purposely breeding for undesirable defects.

It sounds like what you really want is another breed of dog all together, one that comes in solid colours.

What do you mean "undesirable defects"....last I checked, colour was not a defect, but a product....and how would having a solid colour doberman be "undesirable"...its kind of hypocritical to say that this trait is bad, but we can go ahead and breed dog shows with certain traits and aspects we want...but then if someone wants a dog that dont look like the ones we bred to look a certain, then its an "undesirable defect". I take great offence that you would refer to my beloved former doberman as a defect, just because he was all tan..

So your opinion is that if all dobermans dont look exactly as you say they should, or meet up to your standards, then they shouldnt exist...hmm..sounds alot like a former dictators opinion from the early 40's.....

because ur looking for a Doberman with a disorder(something that causes its coat to be like that) or not a Doberman at all..plain and simple

its a DEFECT

Every breed has a breed standard, a blueprint for what the breed is supposed to look like. Dobermans are not supposed to be a solid colour. Therefore, responsible breeders are not breeding for solid colours.

If one happened to occur in a litter, a responsible breeder would ensure it was spayed/neutered. It would be considered an undesirable trait, a mutation, a defect. It doesn't mean the dog wouldn't be a wonderful pet and that someone shouldn't love it, but it does mean it should not be bred. Undesirable traits are not purposely perpetuated.

If breeders ignore the standards for the breeds, we won't have recognizable breeds.

Mary is right - breeders need to breed to the standard and Dobermans are not a solid color breed. I wonder if the dog could have been a fawn with very similar color markings?

Whatever, if you want a solid colored dog then I would look to a different breed for it instead of supporting the greed of any breeder who would deliberately try to breed an incorrect Doberman. I and others on this list will never support the producing of puppies from any Dobermans that are not excellent representatives of the breed. That does not mean that your dog was not special to you, it just means that we don't want to see irresponsible breeding. Too often, the results end up in shelters and rescues.

I personally like Rhodesian Ridgebacks as a beautiful solid red colored breed that is about the same size as a Doberman. Many years ago when we were first looking at what breed to get, they were on my short list but I could not find a breeder in my geographic area at that time. Now that I have Dobermans, I would never switch but I still like them.

"So your opinion is that if all dobermans dont look exactly as you say they should, or meet up to your standards, then they shouldnt exist...hmm..sounds alot like a former dictators opinion from the early 40's.....
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YOu can't come on a forum where people love and care about the breed and support breeding a dog that is not of the best quality. And yes that does include color. Let me guess,you'd like white dobes too? The problem is you will never find an honestly good breeder that breeds for a trait like that.Accept it or not.
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Hi. I have a Doberman who is a little over a year old. He is the only dog I have ever owned and has proven to be a true pleasure. I have little experience on this subject, but here is my two cents. I just registered my dog and found out that he was an albino factored doberman. He is black and tan but carries the trait. I immediately had him nuetered. My problem with Dobermans of unaccepted colors, is that you never know what health problems are also being created as a result. For example, I also love ferrets and own two. Many people desire to have an all white, black eyed ferret. Generally, ferrets are multi-color or if all white are albino. The problem however, that when bred to achieve that result about 90% of all white, black eyed ferrets are deaf. So by breeding for an irregular color, you may also be creating health problems.

Shawna