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CaptainHook2 Jul 02, 2005 04:53 PM

Hi all!

Bruno Bruno Bruno! What a handful. He's doing better although maybe not as good as we would like. He still growls at us, it just seems like we tolerate it better, dunno. Mostly when he's just chillin' on the floor. He's still eating in the living room and we still haven't tried to approach him until he quits growling altogether. I am able to walk near him (while he's eating) without him growling most times. We've started letting him roam the house at night but blocked off our sleeping area so he doesn't get someone going to the bathroom in the middle of the night or coming out of the door. We can leave the windows open without worrying about a break in. He even barks at the AC turning on (windows shut of course). It's not as bad as it sounds, we're just being careful. I get up around 03:15 and he usually growls as he's moving out of my way. I say "Oh be quiet" and he usually stops and lays down elswhere. When I walk by him again he doesn't make a peep. Treats are still an issue. We basically can't give them to him without him turning into Mr. Hyde! I was sharing a popsicle with him one day and he started getting real slobbery. I pulled it away to take another turn and he growled. I turned my back on him and finished it with him trying to come around and begging. It sucks because I like giving him treats but he does not take my appreciation well.

He's getting big, around 70 pounds. He's losing fur like a fur losing thing. Little black balls of hair all over the floor. His fur is thick and fluffy. The new stuff growing in is more straight and glossy, less faded. I clipped his coat down to about 1 1/2 inches but it's still falling out like crazy. At least it's easier to get a brush through him.

Anyway, just sayin hey!

Eric
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DZ

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell

Replies (3)

Jessie226 Jul 07, 2005 08:30 AM

Sounds like things are going well! The more relaxed you are, the quicker Bruno will calm down. They can read us better than we know. I like you're no nonsense attitude with him in the sense that you don't get frightened or discouraged when he growls, you just tell him you won't put up with it. I think once we realized that growling does absolutely nothing for him, it will start to subside. Are there ever moments when he doesn't growl, but normally would have in that type of situation? These are the moments you want to praise and treat immensly. When you know he probably would have growled but hasn't. Is there anything specific he absolutely loves? A certain toy or kind of treat? Maybe you could save his favorites for these moments.
I think your on the right track and even if it doesn't look like you're making any progress, I think you are and it will start to show soon enough. Just stick with your program and your no nonsense attitude.
Good luck! And great to hear from you!

wendalia Jul 25, 2005 10:33 PM

I've read several of your posts, which was what made me realize what a good chow I have.

Your dog sounds like psycho dog. I have three dogs and three cats. They all drink out of the same water bowl and the cats will be inbetween the dogs leggs which is also right next to the dog food bowl (huge, holds about 10 pounds). The cat food is on the dryer because the dogs would eat the at food if it was down.

Anyway, these dogs/cats have always shared. I've always left the dog bowl out with a ton of food because if I portioned it out one dog would be a pig. They seem to have different eating times and Maggie (chow/belgium sheep dog) does like to guard the food and will quietly growl, and I can see her lip curl and I'll yell at her when she does that. But none of them attach the cats and I've always been able to hand feed them and take back whatever. In otherwords I don't have to leave the house or tippy toe around them when they're eating, I'm more inclinded to nudge them out of my way to get through the doorway when their head is stuck in the feeder, it's not a bowl it's a huge pan.

We go to the dairy queen, they get one cone each, they don't try and take each others. Maggie snarfs hers down in two seconds. Kayra is a little slower and Charlie definately licks his. Charlie is the chow. I can put food between my front teeth, pull my lips back and bend down and charlie will take it gently out of my mouth without ever touching me. I wouldn't try it with the other two because they're snatchers. But I've always been amazed how gentle this chow is.

I'll never foget the day I came home, a cat had had kittens. They were in a box, under the couch where the dogs couldn't get to them. I walk through the front door and there's charlie, laying on the floor, with three kittens up by his chest between his front leggs. I don't know how they came to be there, but after that I didn't worry about them. If they're not born here, I have to get them young enought that they haven't developed a fear of dogs. All I do is take all the dogs outside, bring one in at a time, let them see me holding the kitten, let the kitten get used to the dog, bring inthe next dog, do this three times. Now they all know it's mine, I like it, don't hurt it, and I can put it down and it will walk around and get to know the dogs and the dogs stay where they are and pretty soon all is well in the zoo. I tried taking in an older stray once, it didn't work. That thing ran round and round trying to climb the walls and just wouldn't settle down so I let it back outside. Course this excited the dogs. So I can only take in kittens. Cats being cats, fixed or not, have a way of showing their displeasure at being kept inside. So they get to go out whenever they want. IF they don't come back that's their problem, they had it good here. I actually have a cat that's afraid to go outside unless it's dark and will only be outside if the other two are out there. Seems they're always in the yard or garage and pretty much come when called. Every now and then one will stay outside for about a day, I figure it must get hungry and come back.

Anyway, these feeding problems are beyond me. I know how territorial these dogs can be, so I'm not sure they're the best choice for a family with children. Onthe other hand, I think if I'd had kids, Charlie would have been good with them. I have babysat kids, and I mean kids that can't walk. I can remember one kid crawling across the floor, Charlie grabbing his diaper and dragging him back, and then the kid would crawl across the room again and laugh when Charlie pulled him back. He did this very gently too. On the other hand, I've had a kid over here that doesn't know how to act with dogs and I wouldn't leave that kid alone with any of my animals cat or dog. wendalia.

CaptainHook2 Aug 01, 2005 08:25 AM

To me he sounds allot worse than he really is. Then again, I've never had a dog that acted this way. Our first chow was incredible. We got him from the neighbors who simply neglected him for years. We cleaned him up, brought him back to good health and he was awsome. I would take him on walks off leash and only once had a problem with him not coming back (he was after a rabbit)!

Bruno is a very dominant dog. I think the info we followed when we first got him is primarily why he acts the way he does, I feel like it's our fault! Stuff like "Always correct a dog that growls", "put them on their back in a submissive position to show who's boss", "always take their food away at anytime and play with it while he's eating to get him used to it". All this type of stuff simply P----- him off. We've been to a behaviorist who explained allot of things so we're dealling with him from a different angle. When he growls we tell him no, not yelling, and make him go away. When he eats, we put him out of the way and are slowly starting to bring his bowl back to the kitchen. When he's sleeping and we are going that way we talk to him so we don't startle him. The behaviorist said these are all ways to re-condition him to learn that we are not a threat. He's getting better and more predictable. Still not like our first dog though. We'll miss him.

Eric
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DZ

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell

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