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Aging Good Chow

wendalia Jul 25, 2005 10:08 PM

I'm not sure how I found this site, looking for info on eye infections, which I notice my Charlie has. But I started reading the posts and realized what a good dog I have.

I traded a car for him in 1992. He was 3 months old. When the girl who bred him told her boyfriend about the trade, he walked on the dog and busted his leg, or so we thought. So she thew in a dryer. Anyway I picked him up and off to the vet he goes. Well it was way worse than had been described by the owner on the phone, but I was already in love. I'd just moved to the town I was at and the vet trusted me to pay the bills, which I did. Anyway, picked Charlie up a day or so later. Turned out just about every bone in his leg had been broken and here I get this black ball of fur back that's bald on one end with a steel rod sticking out of his hip.

Off my husband and I go for family Christmas stuff. We took this dog everywhere when he was little. He was exposed to large numbers of people from day one. I even took him to a hotel with me where I played in pool tournaments once a year. (Holiday Inns). This dog was well socialized.

I will never forget the time a friend of my husbands came to visit. I didn't particularly care for this person and really didn't know why. But when the guy came to visit, Charlie walked over to the cold air return vent and peed. Well that pretty much told me all I needed to know.

This dog has only bit once, didn't break the skin, but it was warranted. I was home alone and a male came to visit. This being same stupid male that instead of just coming in the door and pulling it shut behind stuck his foot in in a kicking motion and cought the dog in the mouth. Anway same guy comes through door at a later date and was excited about something and was jumping up and down and turning in circles acting like an idiot creating commotion. This was exciting Charlie and I yelled numerous times for him to stop, really yelling, because I didn't like how excited it was making the dog and the other two dogs (both part chow). Well he bit the guy in the butt. He finally did quit jumping. I figure I'm yelling stop, Dog did what it's stupposed to do and besides I doubt he'd forgotten this was same guy that being an idiot kicked him in the mouth.

We acquired a part lab/chow, my husband's (ex) idea of a real dog and then took a dog the owners were going to kill rather than be bothered taking it to the pound to hold for osmeone that wanted it. After we'd had it for the weekend, they didn't come get it and when I called and asked when they were coming, they'd changed their minds. What the heck, we're tied down with two, another can't be any worse (sick joke). This one was part chow/part belgium sheepdog. So one looks like a shrunken lab, the other a belgium sheep dog and one real chow, all black.

The Belgium/Chow is a project. They were going to kill her cause she peed, in the car. She doesn't and didn't pee in the car. She got so stressed that she drooled and it pooled inbetween her legs and looked like she peed. And to top it off she could only go about 1/2 hour in a car without geysering. Well drugs solved that. Anywy other than the one deserved bite, charlies been a pretty good dog. I trust him more than Maggie and Kayra (the lab) you beat with a baseball bat and she wouldn't bite. I'm not sure she even knows she's a dog and dogs bite. She's just real mild mannered.

Charlie, being a chow, I just don't give him a chance knowing how animal control and insurance companies can be. When children have been over, I don't leave them alone in the room with him. When people want to pet him on the street I make them stoop down and let him come to them. I don't let people just walk up and start petting him. When strangers come to the door I don't tell him to stop (quiet/it's okay). I only say that to friends and yes he'll bark most of the time they come, not always but most and stop when they hold their hands out. On the other hand I've come out of the shower to find people I know in my house, that weren't there when I went in and found notes from people that stopped and used the bathroom. So he knows the difference between friend and foe. The best was when my parents came to visit from out of state and I told them where to call me from so I could leave work and let them in. My mother called me at work and when I asked where they were, she said at my house. In my house, yes. Where are the dogs. Well one's right here, ones on the back of the couch and one ran upstiars. So I'm not real sure I have guard dogs even though I do believe if someone ever laid a finger on me they'd be there. Apparently they will let you in if they think you're okay.

They will alert you to things happening. Once when they wouldn't shut up I looked out the window and the neighbors car was being broke into. Once when I was to tired to see what they were barking about, the hood ornaments were stolen off my car. I came home to a notice on the door once cause the neighbor had called the police because the dogs were barking. I was to call the police. They wanted to know if everything was okay in my house because the neighbor had called because my dogs were barking. The reason they'd called is because my dogs don't normally bark unless something is wrong and they wanted me to make sure everythign was okay and they would come out if I wanted.

Well now Charlies so old, getting blind and deaf, there was a period when I would walk in and he'd be pretty ferocious til I said Charlie, it's me. Now I come home and walking doesn't do anything, so I watch, is he breathing, yep, okay, touch him gently so as not to startle him and he'll get up eventually. He's getting old though. Get's worn out real quick. Has had a few health problems lately. A few years ago, they said he had prostate problems and wanted to operate. I thought, well dogs this old, get cut and a year later their dead. Well we're on about year three now I think.

He had to have his head shaved this winter cause he had hot spots. Looked pretty goofy, but it all grew back. Now today I noticed he has something coming out his eye, obviously an eye infection. So he needs to go to the vet.

When we got him we weren't sure if he had eye problems, he didn't get the eyelid surgery. He would have been a good dog to breed based on his disposition I think. He wasn't neutered when he was little cause my husband wouldn't allow it. I wish I would have because it might have helped as far as his supposed prostate problems. (I got a problem witht he vet that diagnosed this--he missed tapeworms and apparently that's what the crud on his butt was -so I'm not sure he has or had prostate problems since he's still kicking around three summers later).

Anyway, off to the vet hopefully tomorrow for his eye. But hey, if anyone got to the end of this, what's the longest a chow has lived that you know of. Charlie will be 13 this September. thanks. wendalia.

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PHFasDog Jul 27, 2005 11:08 AM

Wow, what a story! Thank goodness you were there to take Charlie. He sounds fantastic and I hope you get the eye problem solved. I have 2 senior dogs and I love their old faces and softer way of looking at life. They have slowed down considerably. Our 10 minute mile walk now takes 20 minutes, but that's ok! I enjoy being with them whatever we are doing, just like you are enjoying Charlie.
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Shboom Jul 28, 2005 12:27 PM

Wendalia I must apologize to you as I had read this wonderful story the other day and somehow time escaped me and I wasn't able to reply until just now. I am glad you have found this site and hope you come back to post again.

What an inspiring story, I have to thank you for sharing it with us. What you have done with your dogs is nothing short of remarkable. I hope you are able to get Charlie's eye condition under control, what a good boy he is. Having 3 Shiba Inu's I have an idea about the stubborn streaks these spitz breeds can have. My oldest Shiba is now 7 years of age, getting a little whiter around the muzzle but he hasn't really lost a step yet. I hope you still have several more years with Charlie, I don't know what the longest lived Chow might have been, the book says the breed can live 15. Whatever time there may be left, make it as happy for him now as you have done for the first 13 years. Good luck with all of your dogs.
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DebraDownSth Aug 04, 2005 07:34 PM

What a wonderful tribute to your dogs and your love. While I adamately disagree the dog should have been bred, no matter what his temperament, I am glad those dogs found such wonderful people.

While MOST prostate issues are solved by early neutering, there is some research that some problems are worse. And there is also serious issues of increase in bone cancer in dogs neutered before a year. So while i do support neutering, I don't think you have harmed him by not doing it.

Bless you for being a good owner.
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wendalia Nov 08, 2005 01:42 PM

Why do you adamantly disagree about breeding, the dog breed in general? Not all chows are bad, and not all bad chows were born bad, some just had bad owners.

Anyway update, I came across this thread and realized I wrote it.

Since July his eye never really healed. And he started stumbling and falling flat on his face. And then his back legs would just go out sideways like the splits and he'd be flat on his face.

Add to this the fact that basically if he moved at all when he stopped he just stood there panting and heaving like he'd just run a marathon draggin something behind him.

I started coming home not knowing if he was dead or not because he was laying there and you couldn't see any movement. So i'd gently touch him, and yep he was still alive.

I guess between July and end of OCt his eye should have healed. It was getting an itsy bit better, not much though. He was obviously deaf, you got no reaction from him unless you were right in front of him which leads me to believe he had some site.

Well when he started falling all over the place and hardly moving and having no interest in going outside and being afraid to go out the door, about a 4 inch drop or come back in and stood around shaking and pivoting on the bad leg, which weirdly enough was now the good leg (makes me wonder if a pin was still in there holding it together) something told me now. Not next week, not a week from now now.

My one dog would come and sit and stare at me with pleading eyes. The other would no longer let him eat. Which was a problem I could overcome by feeding him separately but I think the two of them were trying to tell me something. Do something for him. I

didn't spend hundreds trying to find out what was wrong, because I realized I'd been saying goodbye to him for the last two years. The first winter he made it through I was happy, the second, last winter; I was amazed. I decided that little guy had so much gumption he would keep going and going and going no matter what, no matter how hard it was to breath or walk. Sure they could maybe alleviate some of the pain or make his breathing a little less labored, but they couldn't make him run again, they couldn't make him climb fences or chase squirrels. They could just delay the enevitable for maybe a winter or so more, that he wouldn't really enjoy. So I had him put down Oct 31.

I have to believe that he probably was feeling none to proud flat on his face and it probably concerned him that when people came to the door he could barely get a bark out and in his attempt to get to the door his legs would go out from under him.

The one dog quit sitting infront of me with pleading eyes and the other quit guarding the food. So I think they knew something.

I should have noticed long ago how bad the other one was getting while I was focusing on Charlie. She now no longer came and sat and looked at me with pleading eyes, she just laid next to me wherever I was. But it became obvious to me she was barely alive. I put her down yesterday. What I learned was I waited way to long on her, her heart had just about stopped and that while Charlies heart was strong it would have been cruel to make him continue on splatting on the ground every time he fell and gasping for deep breaths every time he moved.

munchkins Nov 10, 2005 08:14 PM

that is heartbreaking. I hope that your third dog hangs around forever! DogHobbyist does offer a pet loss chat every night that you might want to attend.
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