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Nice one, can you post more pictures? Especially of them breeding?
Yes, here is breeding...

Have you already started putting them into colour morphs?
This season we will be mixing them into all the morphs, we are very excited about this. There are so many morphs to breed into them and now we can keep many more in smaller spaces, I think the morph market for these will start to catch up with balls. Though they have along way to go.

I suppose you will be offered 1/2 Dwarfs, 100% het for albino....that sort of thing? Like the dwarf retics?
we will be offering het and double hets yes. WIll only be selling a few pairs, not many, this is going to be a long term investment project for many. We already sold a few pairs of babies for a very high price, we need to protect our customers.

What about hybridizing? You thought about trying a male to a female Kayuadi dwarf retic? Or something along those lines??
We have thought of it and may or maynot do it. They are of size to do a lot of different hybrids now, mix with all the smaller pythons.

Also, what size cage would you say is 'sensible' for keeping these guys in? Lets say a big female, what is a bare minimum for it, and what is 'ideal'?
We keep them in adult ball size tubs. They are about the same size of a big female ball. We keep ours in rack systems. Or breed them in 3' neodesha cages.

Also, a 7ft female dwarf, is it the same build as a 7ft normal? Or is it more slender for its length??
They are medium body weight, much smaller than that of a normal. They arent fat at all. About the same as a ball python!!

These would be truly fantastic. For anyone that compares these to Royals, there is no comparison to me. burmese have always been attractive, its just a downside they grow so big. Now you can invest in another small python which is very attractive.
We believe in these very much and have invested a lot of money to maintain the only ones in the u.s. These things are just incredible.

Also, i suppose your WC ones are pretty aggressive, have any calmed down at all? Do you expect the babies to be as docile as normal burms??
They are aggressive. They dont have any problem with trying to bite you. Though just like wild retics are mean and their babies are docile, we expect the same thing.

Would love to see more pictures! When is your web site gonna be up n running??
website has been updated and will continue to be for awhile. We've been pretty busy, but please if you have more questions post em here!!

Thank you very much..
Savannah
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Because I have a really nice pair of leprechauns het for Santas elves that I would be willing to trade.

Just kidding,.. I couldn't resist.

>>Nice one, can you post more pictures? Especially of them breeding?
>>Yes, here is breeding...
>>
>>Have you already started putting them into colour morphs?
>>This season we will be mixing them into all the morphs, we are very excited about this. There are so many morphs to breed into them and now we can keep many more in smaller spaces, I think the morph market for these will start to catch up with balls. Though they have along way to go.
>>
>>I suppose you will be offered 1/2 Dwarfs, 100% het for albino....that sort of thing? Like the dwarf retics?
>>we will be offering het and double hets yes. WIll only be selling a few pairs, not many, this is going to be a long term investment project for many. We already sold a few pairs of babies for a very high price, we need to protect our customers.
>>
>>What about hybridizing? You thought about trying a male to a female Kayuadi dwarf retic? Or something along those lines??
>>We have thought of it and may or maynot do it. They are of size to do a lot of different hybrids now, mix with all the smaller pythons.
>>
>>Also, what size cage would you say is 'sensible' for keeping these guys in? Lets say a big female, what is a bare minimum for it, and what is 'ideal'?
>>We keep them in adult ball size tubs. They are about the same size of a big female ball. We keep ours in rack systems. Or breed them in 3' neodesha cages.
>>
>>Also, a 7ft female dwarf, is it the same build as a 7ft normal? Or is it more slender for its length??
>>They are medium body weight, much smaller than that of a normal. They arent fat at all. About the same as a ball python!!
>>
>>These would be truly fantastic. For anyone that compares these to Royals, there is no comparison to me. burmese have always been attractive, its just a downside they grow so big. Now you can invest in another small python which is very attractive.
>>We believe in these very much and have invested a lot of money to maintain the only ones in the u.s. These things are just incredible.
>>
>>Also, i suppose your WC ones are pretty aggressive, have any calmed down at all? Do you expect the babies to be as docile as normal burms??
>>They are aggressive. They dont have any problem with trying to bite you. Though just like wild retics are mean and their babies are docile, we expect the same thing.
>>
>>Would love to see more pictures! When is your web site gonna be up n running??
>>website has been updated and will continue to be for awhile. We've been pretty busy, but please if you have more questions post em here!!
>>
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>>Thank you very much..
>>Savannah
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>>Savannah
>>Morph Specialties
>>New Imported Morphs
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>>Because I have a really nice pair of leprechauns het for Santas elves that I would be willing to trade.
>>
>>Just kidding,.. I couldn't resist.
>>
>>
>>>>Nice one, can you post more pictures? Especially of them breeding?
>>>>Yes, here is breeding...
>>>>
>>>>Have you already started putting them into colour morphs?
>>>>This season we will be mixing them into all the morphs, we are very excited about this. There are so many morphs to breed into them and now we can keep many more in smaller spaces, I think the morph market for these will start to catch up with balls. Though they have along way to go.
>>>>
>>>>I suppose you will be offered 1/2 Dwarfs, 100% het for albino....that sort of thing? Like the dwarf retics?
>>>>we will be offering het and double hets yes. WIll only be selling a few pairs, not many, this is going to be a long term investment project for many. We already sold a few pairs of babies for a very high price, we need to protect our customers.
>>>>
>>>>What about hybridizing? You thought about trying a male to a female Kayuadi dwarf retic? Or something along those lines??
>>>>We have thought of it and may or maynot do it. They are of size to do a lot of different hybrids now, mix with all the smaller pythons.
>>>>
>>>>Also, what size cage would you say is 'sensible' for keeping these guys in? Lets say a big female, what is a bare minimum for it, and what is 'ideal'?
>>>>We keep them in adult ball size tubs. They are about the same size of a big female ball. We keep ours in rack systems. Or breed them in 3' neodesha cages.
>>>>
>>>>Also, a 7ft female dwarf, is it the same build as a 7ft normal? Or is it more slender for its length??
>>>>They are medium body weight, much smaller than that of a normal. They arent fat at all. About the same as a ball python!!
>>>>
>>>>These would be truly fantastic. For anyone that compares these to Royals, there is no comparison to me. burmese have always been attractive, its just a downside they grow so big. Now you can invest in another small python which is very attractive.
>>>>We believe in these very much and have invested a lot of money to maintain the only ones in the u.s. These things are just incredible.
>>>>
>>>>Also, i suppose your WC ones are pretty aggressive, have any calmed down at all? Do you expect the babies to be as docile as normal burms??
>>>>They are aggressive. They dont have any problem with trying to bite you. Though just like wild retics are mean and their babies are docile, we expect the same thing.
>>>>
>>>>Would love to see more pictures! When is your web site gonna be up n running??
>>>>website has been updated and will continue to be for awhile. We've been pretty busy, but please if you have more questions post em here!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thank you very much..
>>>>Savannah
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>>>>More New Imported Morphs Than Any Where Else.
>>>>Savannah
>>>>Morph Specialties
>>>>New Imported Morphs
>>>>morphspecialties@yahoo.com(New Email Soon)
>>>>morphspecialties.com(Under Construction)
>>>>
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>>"I must have some terrible, deadly disease. It seems that everyone that has screwed me in the past always dies mysteriously a few years later." *Lou Cypher*
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- Joel Smith

"If you're not part of the solution, you're still part of the problem"

>>>>Because I have a really nice pair of leprechauns het for Santas elves that I would be willing to trade.
>>>>
>>>>Just kidding,.. I couldn't resist.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Nice one, can you post more pictures? Especially of them breeding?
>>>>>>Yes, here is breeding...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Have you already started putting them into colour morphs?
>>>>>>This season we will be mixing them into all the morphs, we are very excited about this. There are so many morphs to breed into them and now we can keep many more in smaller spaces, I think the morph market for these will start to catch up with balls. Though they have along way to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I suppose you will be offered 1/2 Dwarfs, 100% het for albino....that sort of thing? Like the dwarf retics?
>>>>>>we will be offering het and double hets yes. WIll only be selling a few pairs, not many, this is going to be a long term investment project for many. We already sold a few pairs of babies for a very high price, we need to protect our customers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What about hybridizing? You thought about trying a male to a female Kayuadi dwarf retic? Or something along those lines??
>>>>>>We have thought of it and may or maynot do it. They are of size to do a lot of different hybrids now, mix with all the smaller pythons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also, what size cage would you say is 'sensible' for keeping these guys in? Lets say a big female, what is a bare minimum for it, and what is 'ideal'?
>>>>>>We keep them in adult ball size tubs. They are about the same size of a big female ball. We keep ours in rack systems. Or breed them in 3' neodesha cages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also, a 7ft female dwarf, is it the same build as a 7ft normal? Or is it more slender for its length??
>>>>>>They are medium body weight, much smaller than that of a normal. They arent fat at all. About the same as a ball python!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>These would be truly fantastic. For anyone that compares these to Royals, there is no comparison to me. burmese have always been attractive, its just a downside they grow so big. Now you can invest in another small python which is very attractive.
>>>>>>We believe in these very much and have invested a lot of money to maintain the only ones in the u.s. These things are just incredible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also, i suppose your WC ones are pretty aggressive, have any calmed down at all? Do you expect the babies to be as docile as normal burms??
>>>>>>They are aggressive. They dont have any problem with trying to bite you. Though just like wild retics are mean and their babies are docile, we expect the same thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Would love to see more pictures! When is your web site gonna be up n running??
>>>>>>website has been updated and will continue to be for awhile. We've been pretty busy, but please if you have more questions post em here!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>Thank you very much..
>>>>>>Savannah
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>>>>>>More New Imported Morphs Than Any Where Else.
>>>>>>Savannah
>>>>>>Morph Specialties
>>>>>>New Imported Morphs
>>>>>>morphspecialties@yahoo.com(New Email Soon)
>>>>>>morphspecialties.com(Under Construction)
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>>- Joel Smith
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>>"If you're not part of the solution, you're still part of the problem"
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"I must have some terrible, deadly disease. It seems that everyone that has screwed me in the past always dies mysteriously a few years later." *Lou Cypher*

What are you trying to say?

Savannah

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thanks...

Nope no trades for albino midgets.... ha ha
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How big are the hatchlings compared to normal hatchlings? Since the dwarfs are so much smaller than normals, wouldnt the hatchlings be a fraction of the size of a normal as well? Say, a normal hatchling is 18", a dwarf would be 10", right?

Well you say 3" egg, how big is normal burmese egg? 5"? Approx?

That is slightly smaller, but I suppose a large burmese is capable of laying 30 eggs, these have laid about 20, right?

Mind you, dwarf corn snakes lay less eggs than normal corns, grow little over half the size....yet they lay large eggs and have larger hatchlings than normal corns! Not everything works out the way people think!

Also, it's obviously a nice thing to put these into colour mutations. However... is it safe putting a large male burmese into a small female?

I'm not concerned about the 2 adults causing damage to each other, but would the males sperm affect the egg size? In which case would the female manage to lay a load of slightly larger eggs??

I suppose its a risk you may have to take, unless you go the really long way round!! However if you were not fussed about what albino you put it to, a female large albino wold be a better option wouldn't it??

Also, you said a small male bred at 3.5ft. Is that how big they got? How large is the largest male?

Lastly, as said before, are your larger females at 7ft the same build as a normal burmese at 7ft? Or are they more slender? More fat?

Well you say 3" egg, how big is normal burmese egg? 5"? Approx?
Normal sized eggs are usually much larger than 3". These eggs are closer to ball eggs.

That is slightly smaller, but I suppose a large burmese is capable of laying 30 eggs, these have laid about 20, right?
A normal size large burm is capable of laying 80 eggs!! These are capable of laying at 20 or more.

Mind you, dwarf corn snakes lay less eggs than normal corns, grow little over half the size....yet they lay large eggs and have larger hatchlings than normal corns! Not everything works out the way people think!
I have never heard of a dwarf corn snake. We are talking pythons here. Im not familiar with the corns so I can comment.

Also, it's obviously a nice thing to put these into color mutations. However... is it safe putting a large male burmese into a small female?
No problem with putting a breedable male normal burm with a dwarf female. Can take a normal sized burm male and breed him at 8 or 9 feet with a 6 foot female burm, no problem there.

I'm not concerned about the 2 adults causing damage to each other, but would the males sperm affect the egg size? In which case would the female manage to lay a load of slightly larger eggs?? NO. They have already done this several times with dwarf retics. They breed normal sized male to dwarf females and normal sized females with dwarf males. There hasn't been a problem with this. The female determines the size of the eggs, she isnt going to lay huge eggs, she lays the size of eggs her body makes. Has nothing to do with the male.

I suppose its a risk you may have to take, unless you go the really long way round!! However if you were not fussed about what albino you put it to, a female large albino would be a better option wouldn't it??
It doesnt matter which way you go. Willbanks and clark do it both ways with the dwarf retics. We arent trying to limit the size of the babies but the size of the adults.

Also, you said a small male bred at 3.5ft. Is that how big they got? How large is the largest male?
The males seem to max out at around 5-6' long and females at 7'.

Lastly, as said before, are your larger females at 7ft the same build as a normal burmese at 7ft? Or are they more slender? More fat?
The picture of the 2 dwarf burms breeding is of the7' female. You can see her build there. No they are smaller build than a normal 7' animal. They are more similar to balls.

We will have some babies soon and that will help show these are true dwarves. As soon as the hatch we will have the pictures and data. Please any questions or thoughts or opinions, please post em. Im sure there will be those non believers, like Mr. Brian Smith, Damien?? If you dont believe it ask someone that would know. One of the big burm breeders has held one and wants em. We just got lucky enough to buy them all before anyone else got to them.

Thanks everyone for the questions and comments..
Savannah

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Everyone is a little skeptical at first. If these do turn out to be true dwarf burms i am sure Brian will admit he was wrong and he will probally apologize.If they prove to be dwarfs. I feel if a burm is serverly under fed and its growth stunted. As it ages it will become sexually mature even if it is only 4 ft or so. A small snake will lay small eggs. I hope they do prove gentic. But i feel some one has pulled the wool over you eyes. Good Luck and keep us posted.

>>Well you say 3" egg, how big is normal burmese egg? 5"? Approx?
>>Normal sized eggs are usually much larger than 3". These eggs are closer to ball eggs.
>>
>>That is slightly smaller, but I suppose a large burmese is capable of laying 30 eggs, these have laid about 20, right?
>>A normal size large burm is capable of laying 80 eggs!! These are capable of laying at 20 or more.
>>
>>Mind you, dwarf corn snakes lay less eggs than normal corns, grow little over half the size....yet they lay large eggs and have larger hatchlings than normal corns! Not everything works out the way people think!
>>I have never heard of a dwarf corn snake. We are talking pythons here. Im not familiar with the corns so I can comment.
>>
>>Also, it's obviously a nice thing to put these into color mutations. However... is it safe putting a large male burmese into a small female?
>>No problem with putting a breedable male normal burm with a dwarf female. Can take a normal sized burm male and breed him at 8 or 9 feet with a 6 foot female burm, no problem there.
>>
>>I'm not concerned about the 2 adults causing damage to each other, but would the males sperm affect the egg size? In which case would the female manage to lay a load of slightly larger eggs?? NO. They have already done this several times with dwarf retics. They breed normal sized male to dwarf females and normal sized females with dwarf males. There hasn't been a problem with this. The female determines the size of the eggs, she isnt going to lay huge eggs, she lays the size of eggs her body makes. Has nothing to do with the male.
>>
>>I suppose its a risk you may have to take, unless you go the really long way round!! However if you were not fussed about what albino you put it to, a female large albino would be a better option wouldn't it??
>>It doesnt matter which way you go. Willbanks and clark do it both ways with the dwarf retics. We arent trying to limit the size of the babies but the size of the adults.
>>
>>Also, you said a small male bred at 3.5ft. Is that how big they got? How large is the largest male?
>>The males seem to max out at around 5-6' long and females at 7'.
>>
>>Lastly, as said before, are your larger females at 7ft the same build as a normal burmese at 7ft? Or are they more slender? More fat?
>>The picture of the 2 dwarf burms breeding is of the7' female. You can see her build there. No they are smaller build than a normal 7' animal. They are more similar to balls.
>>
>>We will have some babies soon and that will help show these are true dwarves. As soon as the hatch we will have the pictures and data. Please any questions or thoughts or opinions, please post em. Im sure there will be those non believers, like Mr. Brian Smith, Damien?? If you dont believe it ask someone that would know. One of the big burm breeders has held one and wants em. We just got lucky enough to buy them all before anyone else got to them.
>>
>>Thanks everyone for the questions and comments..
>>Savannah
>>
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Sure I would,. but I doubt that will happen. Yes, I am VERY skeptical. I won't bother listing the many reasons why. But sure, there's a part of me that hopes it's true. But seeing is believing,.... right? So when these "dwarf" babies hatch in 48 days, (or whatever it is) I'd be right in line to see the pictures.

>>Everyone is a little skeptical at first. If these do turn out to be true dwarf burms i am sure Brian will admit he was wrong and he will probally apologize.If they prove to be dwarfs. I feel if a burm is serverly under fed and its growth stunted. As it ages it will become sexually mature even if it is only 4 ft or so. A small snake will lay small eggs. I hope they do prove gentic. But i feel some one has pulled the wool over you eyes. Good Luck and keep us posted.
>>
>>
>>>>Well you say 3" egg, how big is normal burmese egg? 5"? Approx?
>>>>Normal sized eggs are usually much larger than 3". These eggs are closer to ball eggs.
>>>>
>>>>That is slightly smaller, but I suppose a large burmese is capable of laying 30 eggs, these have laid about 20, right?
>>>>A normal size large burm is capable of laying 80 eggs!! These are capable of laying at 20 or more.
>>>>
>>>>Mind you, dwarf corn snakes lay less eggs than normal corns, grow little over half the size....yet they lay large eggs and have larger hatchlings than normal corns! Not everything works out the way people think!
>>>>I have never heard of a dwarf corn snake. We are talking pythons here. Im not familiar with the corns so I can comment.
>>>>
>>>>Also, it's obviously a nice thing to put these into color mutations. However... is it safe putting a large male burmese into a small female?
>>>>No problem with putting a breedable male normal burm with a dwarf female. Can take a normal sized burm male and breed him at 8 or 9 feet with a 6 foot female burm, no problem there.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not concerned about the 2 adults causing damage to each other, but would the males sperm affect the egg size? In which case would the female manage to lay a load of slightly larger eggs?? NO. They have already done this several times with dwarf retics. They breed normal sized male to dwarf females and normal sized females with dwarf males. There hasn't been a problem with this. The female determines the size of the eggs, she isnt going to lay huge eggs, she lays the size of eggs her body makes. Has nothing to do with the male.
>>>>
>>>>I suppose its a risk you may have to take, unless you go the really long way round!! However if you were not fussed about what albino you put it to, a female large albino would be a better option wouldn't it??
>>>>It doesnt matter which way you go. Willbanks and clark do it both ways with the dwarf retics. We arent trying to limit the size of the babies but the size of the adults.
>>>>
>>>>Also, you said a small male bred at 3.5ft. Is that how big they got? How large is the largest male?
>>>>The males seem to max out at around 5-6' long and females at 7'.
>>>>
>>>>Lastly, as said before, are your larger females at 7ft the same build as a normal burmese at 7ft? Or are they more slender? More fat?
>>>>The picture of the 2 dwarf burms breeding is of the7' female. You can see her build there. No they are smaller build than a normal 7' animal. They are more similar to balls.
>>>>
>>>>We will have some babies soon and that will help show these are true dwarves. As soon as the hatch we will have the pictures and data. Please any questions or thoughts or opinions, please post em. Im sure there will be those non believers, like Mr. Brian Smith, Damien?? If you dont believe it ask someone that would know. One of the big burm breeders has held one and wants em. We just got lucky enough to buy them all before anyone else got to them.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks everyone for the questions and comments..
>>>>Savannah
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>>aligatorhunter@earthlink.net
>>252) 757-3879
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>> My Wife Ran Off With My Best Friend, I Sure Do Miss HIM!!!
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Why is it so impossible to find a locality of burms that that was isolated. Im sure you said the same thing about the dwarf retics? If bob had beat us to getting these then Im sure you wouldnt be saying someone pulled the wool over his eyes? We got to them first and he and others have tried to get them. But we already bought all of them. You think he or other top breeders would want them if they werent the real deal? Those guys arent stupid and are very smart businessman. Im sure you and others will have a reason as to why the babies are coming out half the size of the normals too right?

I didnt know burms could be under feed and all that in the wild.. They get 20' in the wild dont they? These came from an isolated area in the wild in Asia and we imported them directly from our supplier who we have been dealing with for years. We didnt get them from some other importer who is claiming they are dwarves.

When you get a whole group from the wild as they did with the dwarf retics and they are breeding and become gravid while all are nice and fat?? How could a stunted, under fed burm be healthy and fat? You dont make any sense.

Anyway, you can be skeptical all you want, the fact is these are real, they will become very popular and will help with all the homeless Burms and those that are released and put to sleep every year because they get too big. Plus the ever increasing city laws on snake sizes.

Since we and some of the top breeders cant figure out how to tell if they are true dwarf, please tell me how do we tell, how, how do we prove it? Seriously, I want to know your thoughts.

Anyway, no big offense taken, thanks for the comment and qestions, please I would like to hear your thoughts on my comments. Hope I didnt come off too strong.

Best Regards,
Savannah
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For reptileheaven, we have a normal female that is 7' and she weights 23 lbs. The dwarf female of the same length is 11 lbs, so half the size. Both could be bigger if fed heavy. I will try to get a picture of the two together soon for you!!

Thanks
Savannah
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You say these are proven dwarfs, right? How they be "proven" if these are the first babies ever? They can't be proven, because you don't know anything about what the babies will look like nor do you know how big the babies will get. What if these babies grow to be normal sized? Then all this ruckus about "dwarves" will be out the window.

I think it's a little deceiving to advertise these animals as proven dwarves, when you don't even know what the babies will look like. New morphs etc. aren't proven until the babies are produced and reach maturity. Since this has yet to happen, of course people aren't going to believe it's for real. You have no proof that this is real. "Possible dwarfs" is a much more realistic way to advertise these, since you don't know for certain they will be dwarves.

Why can't they be called Dwarf burmese?

There is a bunch of them, sexually mature at under 5ft in length, all wild caught from an isolated population. That is enough hard evidence to say the least.

Ofcourse, that is what 'morphspecialities' is saying. I have no reason to disbelieve them, and if I did I think I would take up his offer, fly over and collect my 10k! I can't see any of you guys doing that? So you obviously have some reason to believe it.

No one queried Bob Clark when he had dwarf retics for the first time. And if Bob Clark had these, no one would be querying him either! Reason being Bob Clark has over the years built up a good reputation over many years, had loads of new morphs and everyone salutes him!

All I can say is 'you wait'. It will be 'proven' and in years to come you will be kicking yourself because you have missed out on a damn good investment.

Thank you. All your points are very true. As far as the other guy, it is true the babies havent been raised yet. I am sure these are dwarf. You people said there is no way I have 5' females that are gravid and 3' males breeding. Now that I have proven that you switch to something else. Now when the babies hatch very small, what will you say? The babies grow very slow and stay small like dwarf retics, you still will have something to say, haha. Thats fine.

There are believers and we have people waiting for babies.

And by the way reptileheaven, Im not a guy, Im a woman, but thanks... So because Im a woman and got them before bigger named people, they dont believe it. Look at the rest of the stuff I import, I get that before other bigger named dealers too!!

As reptileheaven said, if you can disprove me, come and get your money, its waiting!!

Because of course you all say there cant be a dwarf burm, only god allows retic to be dwarf.

Thanks
Savannah

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hehe, all the better. Not only are the top guys beaten, but they are beaten by a lady. Nice one!

I believe you totally, I do not know for a fact admittedly, but I believe you. Wait for a couple of years and all these other people will come crawling back!

Bob and others did it with retics, they imported gravid females got the babies and sold them as dwarf retics. They also sold the wild caught adults as dwarf retics before they got babies.

How about them selling "super" dwarf retics. On Wilbanks webpage, constrictorsunlimited.com, they say they have never been bred and he is selling his as "super" dwarf. So why dont you tell them this? You wouldnt!! At least I have bred mine and have eggs. The eggs are much smaller than normals, what more proof does one need to just say OK so they are dwarf. Well the final would be to see babies just after hatching. I will be more than happy to show the pictures here first. Until then, we will keep posting updated info on them. Maybe you all dont care but the many, many people who email do!!

A morph doesnt have to have babies and grow them up to prove it. A morph just has to be different to prove it. Being genetic is another way of proving it, but I have never heard someone say, "you must raise that albino up to see if it is a morph".

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How big are the hatchlings compared to normal hatchlings? Since the dwarfs are so much smaller than normals, wouldnt the hatchlings be a fraction of the size of a normal as well? Say, a normal hatchling is 18", a dwarf would be 10", right?
We have eggs only so far, no babies yet. Though we will have babies soon.
We expect babies to be much smaller than normal sized burm. A normal sized burm is around 24" /-. By the size of the eggs there is no way a normal sized burm can hatch out, they are much, much smaller. SO you are right!! I would guess the dwarf babies to be around 12" /-

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How much will you be charging for them?

Has anyone considered that these may not be true, 100% burms but some odd, wild, hybrid?

What would possibly breed with a burmese python in the wild? A blood? These dont look like anything else but burmese pythons.

These are Burmese Pythons, just look at them.. Anyway, good thinking!!

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I am not as expert as all of you guys , but i see the burmese in the photos is differently patterns than those regular burmese from thai ??!! wether is dwarf or not ..it is something like new locallity.

They do have different pattern. Its smaller, more numours, and more broken up. It looks nince and spread out on the gravid female but here is the female after laying! This is what there pattern looks like for real.

Thanks for bringing it up...

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I cannot describe theirs different like a taxonomist. But once seeing the photos I can understand they are different kind , not to say very obviously darker ! If it's a dwarf then i guess they are found from an offshores island , am i right ?? There are more things in S.E Asia than we would imagine. Don't forget they have the largest archipelagos on earth , who knows ??!