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Huge yard no fence fence not an option

bricklayer Jan 18, 2006 11:40 PM

I have a dobermanLab mix and i have a very large property. i have one house to the left of me and for some reason my dog seems to think that my neighbours yard is my dogs yard. as soon as i let him out he runs right to the neighbours yard. If i force the dog into the backyard he takes the back route into the yard. I could put up a fence but that would cost me thousands of dollers. ive heard about electric fences and wireless fences but dont know a lot about them. my backyard is pretty much thick bush and im not sure if it will work there. I have also heard about remote electric shock collers. i would just like some advice on what i should use between these two or if there is some other method i can use to kee my dog out of my neighbours yard.

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PHReign Jan 19, 2006 08:41 AM

Fences do cost a lot of money, but you don't have to fence off your whole yard. Fence off a 50' by 50' run. He'll be safe, you'll be happy. Depending on the type of fence, it won't cost a huge amount.

I'm not a fan of the invisible fences. They may keep your dog in, but they keep nothing out and the number of behavioral problems I've seen asociated with invisible fences are numerous.

Also, when you are not able to completely supervise your dog and you just want it to do it's business, just put your dog on leash and go out with him for a few minutes. There are times to run and there are times to just do business.
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PHReign
Email me: HReign@pethobbyist.com" target="_blank">PHReign@pethobbyist.com
Dear dog,
I can not buy anything larger than a king sized bed. I am very sorry about this. Do not think that I will continue to sleep on the couch to ensure your comfort. Look at videos of dogs sleeping, they can actually curl up in a ball. It is not necessary to sleep perpendicular to each other stretched out to your fullest extent possible. I also know that sticking tails straigt out and having tongues hanging out the other end to maximize space used is nothing more than doggy sarcasm.

Shboom Jan 19, 2006 10:20 AM

I'm not really a big fan of electric fences myself. I suppose if you are just using it to define the boundary line and not an alternative to leaving your dog in the yard unsupervised it may work for you. Some dogs really don't react well to the shock incurred and a large dog such as yours have been known to go right through them. It was suggested to put up a dog run which would be ideal and can be moved from time to time as needed. Good Luck!
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If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.

Rouen Jan 22, 2006 02:48 PM

I use to know a couple that had collie/samoyed mixes, one would charge right through their electric fence the other would usually follow, and then be reluctant to return as they'd also get the shock by coming back into the 3ft shock area on either side of the wire.

Minuet Jan 19, 2006 09:38 PM

I would fence part of the yard right outside the door I let the dog out. How big is your yard? I've love a big backyard.

Min

pharrow Jan 20, 2006 07:22 AM

I agree that electric fences and shock collars probably aren't the best solution. Fencing part of the yard, as others have suggested, is a good idea. My own strategy has been to take my dog on walks three times a day and save for a fully fenced yard.

bricklayer Jan 20, 2006 04:21 PM

i actually tried a run for the dog but she is a totally diffent dog when i put her in it she barks all day and will not leave the front gate ive tried and tried and tried but she will not adapt to it she is used to bieng able to run free and play its diffrent though when im there if i am outside she will never leave my side, i have never had her on a leash i trained her as a puppy without a leash to not stray far but its just when i let her out by herself she goes wild. and i cant always go outside with her everytime is there a better way to make her adapt better to going in a fenced in run ive tried treats toys ive even hung out with her a couple of times in the run but it dosnt seem to work thats why i was inquiring about invisible fences.

KDiamondDavis Jan 20, 2006 10:02 PM

>>i actually tried a run for the dog but she is a totally diffent dog when i put her in it she barks all day and will not leave the front gate ive tried and tried and tried but she will not adapt to it she is used to bieng able to run free and play its diffrent though when im there if i am outside she will never leave my side, i have never had her on a leash i trained her as a puppy without a leash to not stray far but its just when i let her out by herself she goes wild. and i cant always go outside with her everytime is there a better way to make her adapt better to going in a fenced in run ive tried treats toys ive even hung out with her a couple of times in the run but it dosnt seem to work thats why i was inquiring about invisible fences.

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My back door opens right into the dog potty yard. You could install a doggy door into this kind of arrangement, but I prefer controlling the dogs' access to the yard, so I monitor them from that door whenever they're out. The dog yard is only 30' x 30', and I pick it up every day so that it is not smelly or dirty.

A dog run out away from the house is lonely for dogs. When my dogs are in their potty yard, my back door stays open so they are not alone stuck out there. I have a double-layer heavy vinyl drape I can pull across that open patio doorway to keep the indoor air in and the outdoor air out, but let the dogs pass through freely. If I close the actual door, they come running up and want in.

The fencing for a 30' x 30' dog yard with one wall being the back wall of the house is 90 feet of fence, less the width of the walk gate you will probably want. We used welded wire on heavy duty t-posts, which is very inexpensive. I'd like to have chain link, and may do that next time. The posts have been in since 1988, painted once. This system works great for us. The whole yard is also fenced, but we don't want the dogs against the property line fence for every potty outing, because other people have been known to tease over the fence.
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Kathy Diamond Davis, author, "Therapy Dogs: Training Your Dog to Reach Others," 2nd edition, and the free Canine Behavior Series articles at http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=SRC&S=1&SourceID=47

Rouen Jan 22, 2006 02:57 PM

how about a dog run(coated wire with a coated wire leash attached) thats what I use for my dog when I'm out taking care of the ducks, never had a problem with it other than the plastic wheel broke off but it's replaceable, our dogs are never on it for long periods though unless supervised, ours if 50ft withg a 6ft lead plus the wire has some give(it's not pulled tight at the ends) to it so they can roam a little further out than 6ft.

PHReign Jan 23, 2006 09:00 AM

No dog enjoys being alone outside for long periods of time- especially one that you seem to have such a wonderful bond with.

I certainly would not leave a dog outside all day with an invisible fence system. I may have misread this though so please don't take offence. I'm just clarifying.

The idea of Kathy's where the dog run is right outside the door and the dog has access to inside and out seems ideal in your situation. Dogs want to be with their humans. Ideally we would all have time to play with them non-stop and be able to fulfill all their exercise needs- I know- It's not always possible.
Hopefully there is an option out there for you that will work.
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PHReign
Email me: HReign@pethobbyist.com" target="_blank">PHReign@pethobbyist.com
Dear dog,
I can not buy anything larger than a king sized bed. I am very sorry about this. Do not think that I will continue to sleep on the couch to ensure your comfort. Look at videos of dogs sleeping, they can actually curl up in a ball. It is not necessary to sleep perpendicular to each other stretched out to your fullest extent possible. I also know that sticking tails straigt out and having tongues hanging out the other end to maximize space used is nothing more than doggy sarcasm.

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