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anyone know if any of these breeds are bred in the U.S.?
and the names of some american kennels that breed them?

Canary Dog, Perro Cimarron, Alano Espanol and/or Cane Garouf.

Thanks.

I'm not entirely sure but they are interesting looking dogs. When I have a moment I'll have to do a search. I had never even heard of these breeds before.
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If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.

None of those breeds are curently recognised by the AKC.

I didn;t ask if they were recognised by the AKC, most rare breeds arent, I asked if they are bred in the united states.

I've never even heard of them. I'd be interested in learning a bit about them.
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Chelle and the rest of the crew including, but not limited to Kita and Taiko (the shiba inu wrestle maniacs), Adi (reserved and dignified tabby cat), and all 28 reptiles

you can find some info on the breeds at http://www.moloss.com/001/ptxt/breed.html
the canary dog is listed as perro dogo canario(there is nothing listed for them under breed facts though), all of the breeds are listed alphabetically so you shouldn;t have too hard of a time finding them.
if you'd like to learn about canary dogs I can find another site for you.

>>anyone know if any of these breeds are bred in the U.S.?
>>and the names of some american kennels that breed them?
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>>Canary Dog, Perro Cimarron, Alano Espanol and/or Cane Garouf.
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>>Thanks.

Please, Please,PLEASE tell me you researched this breed before going: OOOOOOOOOH PRETTY! Not saying you are stupid or going on a whim, I dont know you, but some people do that and it's for the worse both human and dogwise.

If I remember correctly the Canary Dog and the Preso were used as fighting dogs if not still in some circles. And we all know from pittbull incidents how nicely the public likes that. How we are prone to run away with those stories.

If that isn't the right factiod then they were used for herding/guarding. And we all know from crazy border collies that herding dogs do best with something to do most of the time if not ALL the time.And guard dogs are very alert and some tend not to like strangers. Also large dogs are not a wise choice for children due to hunting instincts as I have read. I'm not trying to suggest an overbred retriever,far from it, or a fluffy tiny poodle but there are other breeds excellent for children. If you have any or are around them.

I strongly urge you to think about your current situation and if you can take on a large dog like this, spend time educating it(no one likes a huge muddy dog jumping on you) taking care of it teeth nails food etc wise and excersize + mental stimulation. Some people get dogs to sit around the house just so they can say they have a dog. Then when it runs away they wonder: Why? Thats fine for retrievers. These dogs are smart and need something to do.

Good luck in your search and please consider EVERYTHING about thise breed(believe me I know from experience)

P.S.: Consider going to www.petfinder.com for a dog simular if not the same as the ones you are looking for.Petfinder:breedog: Not only do you SAVE a dog but could be even better than what you want! I think I have seen Canary dogs there but don't count me as completely right.
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Squeakey and Sethius Apophis

Alanos were boar hunting dogs, and used as drovers, much like black mouth curs and catahoulas are used, they did bull baiting as well.

Cane Garouf is a Livestock Guardian Dog, used in the italian alps, and is in danger of going extinct.

Cimarrons are guard dogs and boar hunters often hunting in a mixed pack.

Canary dogs are the only ones that were bred specifically to fight.

80% (if not more) of all molosser breeds were used in pit fighting, from danes to staffies, and all molossers need a dominant pack leader.

I dont think I have ever heard of a molosser that was raised right that was not good around children, remember the staffordshire bull terrier is known as the childrens nurse maide in the UK, but is known as a pitbull in the states.

and I never stated I was looking for either of those breeds I stated I was curious if they were bred in the U.S., I am certainly in no position at the moment to get a 80-190lb dog.

as for looking at a breed of dog because it caught ones eye, isn't that how 90% of people get their "pure bred" dogs, they like the way they look, some research the breed others just go out and buy one, I am certainly not an impulse buyer.

>>as for looking at a breed of dog because it caught ones eye, isn't that how 90% of people get their "pure bred" dogs, they like the way they look, some research the breed others just go out and buy one, I am certainly not an impulse buyer.

Not trying to cause trouble here. As for the pure bred thing I for one have a pure bred dog, not trying to brag I love mutts too. And I for sure DID NOT buy him because he was good looking. I researched my behind off! I got him for a number of reasons that are good things to look for. The breeder was friendly and only out for the welfare of the breed health wise, not for money. To this day he loves hearing about his boy. Secondly, EXCELLENT over all health in the breed.They do not have the hip defects that many breeds have or any of the other major ones. Third, trainability is very good.He was just perfect for me and my lifestyle. Keep these in mind who ever is reading this and considering a dog. And read up on the articles here and elsewhere about puppy mill puppies and back yard breeders.

As for the majority of pure dogs being bred are retrievers! Good god how many labs and golden retrivers people have! I'm sick of seeing their ugly mugs! Pitts are also very popular. Which brings me to the point: People just look at joe blow and see what dog he has most of the time and say: hey thats a good dog I'll get one! As I tell people when they ask about my dog I say to them: You don't want one you actually have to do something with it. Once again I'm not trying to make trouble with you Rouen but help/educate anyone who's reading this from personal experience.

It seems the dogs you are looking for are pretty rare and tricky dogs. Once again good luck and keep positive
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Squeakey and Sethius Apophis

Now what I find interesting is that I have the same opinion about labs and goldens, fnd something original. Furthermore the continueing popularity of these breeds is only harming them, I have been attacked by 3 black labs, know of a friends that bit a vacume cleaner salesman and had a yellow lab attack my 3 dogs my son and I. The owner of the lab, whos dog was loose, first got mad at me for my vicious Chow Chow, all of mine were leashed, then belamed his dogs actions on his poodle cocker spaniel cross saying that "the little one gets him going". So many people who get them have the attitude that its a lab, everyone loves labs, so he doesn't need to be fenced or leashed. It reall y PO's me.

Sorry for the rant.

Hi Rouen:

I don't know of any American breeders of three of the four breeds you mention but the Canary dog is fairly well known where I live.

They're considered rare, I suppose, but there are a lot of people breeding them. Do a Google search using the breed name PRESA CANARIO and I think you'll find many breeders in the States.

okay, thanks.

>>anyone know if any of these breeds are bred in the U.S.?
>>and the names of some american kennels that breed them?
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>>Canary Dog, Perro Cimarron, Alano Espanol and/or Cane Garouf.
>>
>>Thanks.

Yes there are some here... but they are usually blocked into pit bull name.