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Has anyone heard of Miniature Siberian Husky, I found a site while looking for a sibe breeder that said that they have miniature huskies. Take a look at the website and please share your thoughs on this, do you think is good or bad, it says in the web that they do not carry the dwarfism gene. http://www.minihuskies.net/#

When we first got our Sibe "Bella" we were so excited when we walked her around the neighborhood as we thought our neighbor also had a Sibe puppy. We finally spoke with the "parents" and had the dogs play when we were amazed when they told us theres was a rare "mini husky" that (as they said) "had all of the positive features of a full grown husky without the negatives such as size, energy, etc." Well, we didn't want to get into a disagreement about it, but just smiled and nodded. Basically, their dog is "full grown" and is the size that Bella was at about four months. Their dog probably weighs around 15 lbs and has the look of a puppy husky, but that's about it. It talked a TON (much more than any other husky we've met) and even barked quite often. It was more snippy than we've seen from other huskies and didn't have the demeanor of any of the huskies we have Bella play with. Some of this could be the genes the mini received, but I guess we aren't comfortable with a neo-breed.

Just my $.02.

That being said, the mini is beautiful and appears healthy. I hope that helps.

I think you mean Alaskan Klee Kai, they are a designer dog, they come in 3 sizes and from what I have seen they dont breed 100% true, alot of them have varying coats.

"The Alaskan Klee Kai has a lot of Alaskan and Siberian Husky, as well as small amounts of American Eskimo in some dogs. They were developed in the 70's and are a relatively new breed. They were bred to be companions and numbers are increasing."

the smaller ones also have pom. in them.

no is it not a Alaskan Klee Kai, acording to the website i visited that post it in my first post, it is suppose to have all the characteristic of a sibe which the alaskan klee kai does not have, they are very protective and wary of people which the husky does not have. Please read the website and give some thougs and opinions on what ou think of this?

the url you provided didn't work correctly as most of the site was broken..

I did search the "breed" and found they they are newer than alaskan klee kai, being only about 15 years in development, and the only main difference between alaskan klee kai and miniature sibes is temperment(because the alaskan klee kai was outcrossed)
anyway I stand by what I said before, this is just a designer dog.

I agree, this is another "fad" dog and I too could not get to the website you posted.

I know a few Klee Kais and I would be very wary of a breed they are intentionally making wary of strangers. Huskies and Klee Kais are absolutely not wary of strangers and should not be. Given that much latitude and deviation from the husky breed seems to me that they are dealing with an incredibly small gene pool and are trying to justify some of the poor temperaments that have resulted from their breedings. If temperaments are suffering, my bet is there are otehr problems inherent to this "breed." I'd stay away from it personally.
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Chelle and the rest of the crew including, but not limited to Kita and Taiko (the shiba inu wrestle maniacs), Adi (reserved and dignified tabby cat), and all 28 reptiles

thank everyone for answering i'm kind of new to this dog breeding thing, not that i'm planning to breed or anything is too much responsibility for me, but anywyas was is a desiner dog is that good or bad? this is the link again http://www.minihuskies.net. anybody with commnets on this feel free to post.

Thanks

The web site is junk. I only saw one fuzzy picture and it didn't look like a scaled down Sibe. It looked like a Klee Kai. I think the site you saw is a scam to get people to send them money for a dog that doesn't exist. My young daughter can make a better web page than that one. No pictures... your first clue.

Also, you can't just breed dogs smaller and smaller. Using that logic, you could get a dog the size of a grasshopper if you went enough generations. That's why the Klee Kai folks add in smaller breeds and why they don't act or look like a Sibe.

If you don't want a 35-50 lb Sibe, go buy a Pomeranian or something. You can't replace the original.

Walt

Walt has a point about breed re-sizing.

It takes hundreds of years to alter the size of a breed dramatically if your doing things the o-natural way.
The only way to change the size of a dog breed within the lifetime of a person is to breed in smaller or larger dog breeds... in which case you don't really have the same breed anymore.

The only way to get instant mini is in the rare cases of dwarfism. However as with human beings, this genetic trait isn't necesarily passed on to the next generation... so breeding two dogs with dwarfism wouldn't necesarily result in puppies the same size... and correct me if I'm wrong but any dogs with dwarfism and wrought with health problems.

Although also as Walt said... a good website would have pictures. The simple fact that a supposed dog breeder cannot put one clear pictures of there dogs on there website leans in more into the scam catagory.

In reading through the rest of the website... it seems to me they are basically trying to breed out all the characteristics that makes a husky a husky.
They want a small, non energetic dog that won't try to escape and outsmart your various attempts to keep it from escaing, chase the cat(although why you have a cat with a husky I don't know)

So it seems like they are breeding this dog for people who want a dog that looks like a husky, but has a completely different personality... what fun is that?

"Designer" or "fad" dogs are the bain to most responsible breeders. Typically, a dog that is in vogue to have is being over bred and bred by individuals out to make money on the selling of puppies. Health checks are not done on the parents of the puppies because that would cost money and eat away at the profits. There is no consideration for temperament, structure, etc with these fad dogs. Dogs are just bred because they are what the general public wants right now.

The reason a "miniature husky" would not be a good breed based on what this website is saying is that the "breed" is no longer a husky. If you take away the personality, the size, the sled dog instinct, it can't be a husky anymore. A husky is a noble breed developed centuries ago for the purpose of pulling a sled in cold climates efficiently and seemingly effortlessly. A miniature husky woudl be of no use in that task.

The Alaskan Klee Kais are as close to a "miniature husky" as you will ever want to get and even their breeders are doing their very best to develop the breed as it's own breed. That breed is in a way still developing and being carefully controlled. I don't know that breeds whole story, but minimally the breeders of that breed are working together and trying to create a true breed. The dogs are being carefully bred, shown in conformation to a standard, and decisions about which dogs should be bred and which ones are not appropriate are made based on meeting that whole standard and not just one aspect of it- ie. size alone. Any time you weigh one attribute as more important than another you create an unbalance that can bring on long term problems in a breed.
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Chelle and the rest of the crew including, but not limited to Kita and Taiko (the shiba inu wrestle maniacs), Adi (reserved and dignified tabby cat), and all 28 reptiles

Thanks everyone for your opinions, it looks like you guys have really good points about this, i wonder what they are really trying to sell, i e-mail her yesterday asking for pictures and she said she had two female dogs available, she send me pictures of the dogs but i don't know how to post pics in this web if somebody could tell me how i will post them for you guys. Anyone knows of a good husky breeder that ships there puppies. I live in New York so is really hard to find a Sibe Breeder out here. I found a wesite of a breeder that breeds sibes but they breed other dogs too and i read in a website that breeders that breed more that one breed are bad breeders is this true? , this is the website http://www.bluemoondogs.com/index.html. Do you think this breeders are good or not?

You can upload pics to the Photo Gallery or you can put them on another site (like photobucket.com) and put the image link in the "Image URL" box below the message box where you type in your message.

Walt

I think this is the links http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g319/Irrisistable313/3e63b54b.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g319/Irrisistable313/7ae7055c.jpg

let me know if it works and what you guys think?

They just look like they are really young.
Then again I have an Alaskan pup who is only 8 weeks old and weighs 12 lbs which is already in the weight range of the "mini husky"

Anyhoo what I would ask for is pictures of the parents!

Anyhoo, here's two kennels that I know of in New York. I'm not endorsing them or telling you "oh yeah go there" just that they exist. Keeping in mind, they would be working sibes not show.

http://www.odyssey.net/subscribers/keith1021/lakotasong/
http://linendollshappyhuskykennel.com/

This is the American Eskie that my other dog did not get along with, he lives in my house but downstairs with my cousins, he's my baby he is so funny and playful, just not with other people. His name is Daybreak (i know weir name) but he had that name when we adopted him and we just left it like that. We are playing in the snow he loves it.

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I just read the first paragraph and had alarms going off in my head.
Quote from site:
XXX Dogs is a USDA Licensed
Kennel that specializes in providing a
top quality pet for families. Puppies
are almost always available and if
you do not see your breed please
check back later and they probably
will be available. For more
information please browse our site.

OK, here's a few reasons why:
1) No great breeder really needs to advertise immediately that they are a liscensed kennel. Like liscensing gives then better morals than anything else? Not at all. In fact, to me it makes them more of a "farm" than a great place to raise puppies.

2) They produce "pet" puppies. Yeah, so their dogs are not show dogs. Not all breedin dogs need to be, but every great breeder needs to breed to a standard. THe only way to judge that effectively is to evaluate your breeding stock against other dogs- that can be conformation or performance or best yet both, but breeding dogs need to be excellent examples of their breed. A great breeder strives for that and wants to show them off.

3) "Puppies are almost always available." VERY bad news! A great breeder takes deposits for their litters and had a waiting list. They do not breed to demand, they breed their dogs as the dogs are fit to be bred. Again, they are not farm animals and there is no winner for highest producer with dogs. Overbred dogs and dogs bred every heat cycle can get sick fairly quickly. I wouldn't support that practice. Best to wait a few months for the best puppy you can get.

4) the multiple breeds and their willingness to breed dogs they are not familiar with. Looks like they sometimes are brokers for other dog breeders and that is just an unsavory practice overall.

That's just the first paragraph, I don't need to go further into this website. This is not a place I would personally go for a puppy.
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Chelle and the rest of the crew including, but not limited to Kita and Taiko (the shiba inu wrestle maniacs), Adi (reserved and dignified tabby cat), and all 28 reptiles

Thanks chelle sounds like you have a point. I will consider something else. the prices for this dogs are very high and my budget is $500. most of them are 600 and up plus shipping since i live in NY and is very hard to find a breeder close by. but anyways thank you for the advise.

http://www.toyhusky.com/ found something on it for you

they look like.. odd.

yeah i went to that website and inquire about those puppies and they are 1,500 each, i can't afford that type of money right now.

OH, I didnt know you wanted to purchase one, i just thought you were curious I wouldnt pay that much for one anyway, thats crazy!!!

http://www.pupcity.com/puppies-for-sale/alaskan-klee-kai.asp

maybe those will help

I don't think i'm going to buy a klee kai i was just curios and was maybe considering because my lhasa is no more tha 12 pounds and i'm a little afraid of bringing such a big dog, but i always wanted a sibe and with the advise people in this wedsite has given me i think they will be no problem if raise together. anyways the klee kai just looks a little liek a husky but i'm gonna keep looking into it, thank you for that link i'll will check it out.