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I had posted before about my puppy having a lump at the injection site when she got her vaccinations. Well, the lump is gone but I did recieve a reply that she had too many shots along with being spayed, a UTI and being wormed all so close together. Now I am concerned that she may have problems in the future from these shots. Is that possible? I have decided not to follow up on anymore vaccinations except the rabies because it's the law where I live. Is there anything I should be watching for? I would appreciate any help you can give me! Thank you!

It's possible that there could be some long-term damage, but you're doing a good thing by not getting anymore vaccines. I live in base housing (hubby is AF), so we have to get our dogs the stupid rabies vaccine too... I wish they'd just get a clue and not require them so often! We get the three-year version, and if possible I'd really recommend that over the one-year one. Another thing you could try is to have your vet document the vaccine reaction and see if you can get out of the rabies shot that way. My older girl has lupus, and you just see if they try to make me screw up her whole immune system with another shot! Worth a try, for sure.
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Kadee Sedtal
home of old lady Lucy (boxer/lab/garbage disposal), pretty girl Fancy (beagle), the rats- Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Pachebel, Fillmore, and Norbert, the mice- Vivaldi, Brahms, Schubert, Bartok, Rasputin, Johann, Chaminade, Dorothy, Glenda, and Em, and the *adorable* winter white dwarf hamster- Feather
"I wish I had a dollar for every time I spent a dollar, because then, yahoo! I'd have all my money back." -Jack Handey

Thanks for your reply Abby! Is there anything special to look for as far as vaccine damage. Most of the cases that I have read about dogs dying from their vaccinations, it seems as though they died very soon after the shots. Is this usually the case?

Some vaccine reactions don't show themselves for weeks, months, even years. I don't know what to tell you! Just keep up what you're doing and your dog ought to be fine. I'd really switch to a different vet, though. If the one you've got has no problem with giving a sick dog a bunch of vaccinations, performing a spay, and worming all at the same time, he/she needs to A- be told off. I mean good, too! That much stuff shouldn't all be done at the same time on a dog *without* a UTI, much less with one. And B- does not deserve the money you pay him/her if he/she is going to do dumb things like that. I'd really suggest finding a holistic vet. I'm such a doofus, I had one vet give two vaccinations and a wormer that he knew I didn't want given, then the same vet gave my older girl Lucy a rabies shot while she was under anesthesia. Then another vet misdiagnosed one of my rats and he died because of that, then a different vet wanted to use three different nasty medicines, including a steroid, to treat my Lucy's lupus. I swear, I'm not ever going to a conventional vet again! They just mess things up for everyone! What I'd give to have the handsome... I mean, holistic vet I took Lucy to a few months ago live nearby. Sigh.
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Kadee Sedtal
home of old lady Lucy (boxer/lab/garbage disposal), pretty girl Fancy (beagle), the rats- Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Pachebel, Fillmore, and Norbert, the mice- Vivaldi, Brahms, Schubert, Bartok, Rasputin, Johann, Chaminade, Dorothy, Glenda, and Em, and the *adorable* winter white dwarf hamster- Feather
"I wish I had a dollar for every time I spent a dollar, because then, yahoo! I'd have all my money back." -Jack Handey

Thanks again for your reply Abby! I had a Lucy too and she passed of cancer on June 1 05. I am determined to do things different with my new puppy Dixie. I didn't know much about the vaccines and dog food and raw meat etc. I am still learning so I will probably have many more questions. I just went with what my vet told me and believed it. A very good friend of mine, opened my eyes to all these new dangers of vaccines and food! I have Dixie on Innova Evo right now and she seems to be eating less so of course I worry about that too. She was on Science Diet and she ate better.

She's eating less of the Evo because there's more good stuff in it and less bad. She'd have to eat more of the Science Diet to get the same nutrition. So don't worry. I used to feed BARF and neither of my girls would touch the mush I gave them in the morning, then we tried mixing in Evo and they loved it.
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Kadee Sedtal
home of old lady Lucy (boxer/lab/garbage disposal), pretty girl Fancy (beagle), the rats- Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Pachebel, Fillmore, and Norbert, the mice- Vivaldi, Brahms, Schubert, Bartok, Rasputin, Johann, Chaminade, Dorothy, Glenda, and Em, and the *adorable* winter white dwarf hamster- Feather
"I wish I had a dollar for every time I spent a dollar, because then, yahoo! I'd have all my money back." -Jack Handey

>>Thanks for your reply Abby! Is there anything special to look for as far as vaccine damage. Most of the cases that I have read about dogs dying from their vaccinations, it seems as though they died very soon after the shots. Is this usually the case?

There are about three different main ways that vaccines can damage.

The first is the obvious allergic reaction that happens either at the vet's office or within hours of coming home.

The other is a type of reaction, different from an allergic reaction, that directly affects the immune system, and occurs tpically within hours or days or even months. When it is hours or days, often the owner knows that these are from the vaccine, but many vets don't believe it -- outward symptoms can range from limping to digestive problems, to a number of seemingly unrelated symptoms. Some of these symptoms the dog may recover from, some may be lifelong (e.g. chronic pancreatitis, degenerative arthritis), and some may be life-ending (e.g. hemolytic anemia, vaccine induced distemper, kidney failure from the lyme vaccine, etc.)

The last type of vaccine damage is the most deceptive because it is operating at a cellular level that probably no one would recognize. For example, after a rabies shot, thyroid antibodies are increased. If these stay elevated, it may take a very long time for the dog to go hypothyroid and the vaccine would never be suspected. One statistical survey showed that some severe spinal arthritis clustered at 6 months post vaccination -- again, something the owner will never see until it's too late, and the vaccine connection probably wouldn't be questioned. It is this last type of reaction that I believe would cause the cancer connection to vaccination if there is one.

Any of these types of reactions I believe can kill. However, I think that the most deadly ones happen sooner rather than later.

Thank you so much Lisa for your reply! And thank you so much for giving me an answer to my question about what to watch for as far as reactions to the vaccinations. My puppy will never get another shot again!