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SmurfyGirl76 Dec 04, 2006 05:37 PM

Hi There,

In a couple weeks I'll be picking up a handsome little Siberian pup and I'm over-the-top excited!

Although I am an experienced dog owner, and an experienced Siberian owner...my lovely Bryn passed away almost a year ago at 13...I have never had a really really young puppy so I'm trying to do as much research as possible before the little guy comes home.

I just found this website and after reading a number of the posts here it seems you all have some really great advice to give so I was hoping you might be able to help me with the following questions/concerns I have:

1) The pup has currently been started on an all-ages type kibble...I think it's called All Chicken or something like that. Now I have had my dogs on Performatrin Ultra and have had tremendous success and results from this food, so I'd like to have the pup on it. My question is...given the fact that I'm going to be shaking up his life quite a bit by removing him from his current home/mother/littermates, how soon can I safely make the transition from his current food to the PU puppy formula, which is also chicken btw. Also, how long will he need to be on puppy food before I can transition him to an adult formula?

2) Once I bring the pup home there are a couple of days where I have to go into work and I plan to bring him with me, and then after that I'm off for two weeks over the Christmas break. However, in January I have to return to work full-time and although I can bring the pup with me from time to time, and my father can do the same, there will be days where he will have to be left at home. I can come home at lunch time though and generally my schedule is pretty flexible. I'm interested to know what others who have a full-time work schedule have done when they have a young pup at home?

Thanks in advance for your advice and I'm sure that I'll be posting more questions in the very near future

Cheers,

Allie

Replies (3)

itobean Dec 04, 2006 07:39 PM

Congratulations on your new puppy!!! I'm so jealous!! But with 3 of my own already, my husband as put a limit on me!

I know with our "twins" we didn't switch them to adult food until they were about 2 years old. We have always feed them Eubkanuba food. And they adjusted well to the different food after we got them home just fine!

Let me tell you first off - it's going to hard to leave the little booger home!! I was worse than a parent with a human child and leaving them for the first time!! But it does get easier! We worked full time and they did just fine. We came home at lunch each day. We've always had a doggy door so potty training them was never an issue. And I think because we had 2 at the same time, they entertained each other. But that doesn't mean we didn't have mishaps!! I've been through 4 couches, 3 drywall patches and 2 coffee tables! We don't believe in crating so that's what we got instead. But the way I've always looked at it is that it is just material things. But definitely make sure your puppy has lots of toys!

Once again, congratulations and my kids send lots of puppy kisses to yours!!!

Sincerely - Lexi, Nicademus, and Wundt!!

KDiamondDavis Dec 05, 2006 03:05 AM

>>Congratulations on your new puppy!!! I'm so jealous!! But with 3 of my own already, my husband as put a limit on me!
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>>I know with our "twins" we didn't switch them to adult food until they were about 2 years old. We have always feed them Eubkanuba food. And they adjusted well to the different food after we got them home just fine!
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>>Let me tell you first off - it's going to hard to leave the little booger home!! I was worse than a parent with a human child and leaving them for the first time!! But it does get easier! We worked full time and they did just fine. We came home at lunch each day. We've always had a doggy door so potty training them was never an issue. And I think because we had 2 at the same time, they entertained each other. But that doesn't mean we didn't have mishaps!! I've been through 4 couches, 3 drywall patches and 2 coffee tables! We don't believe in crating so that's what we got instead. But the way I've always looked at it is that it is just material things. But definitely make sure your puppy has lots of toys!
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>>Once again, congratulations and my kids send lots of puppy kisses to yours!!!
>>
>>Sincerely - Lexi, Nicademus, and Wundt!!
>>

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Talk to your breeder and your vet about the food. Siberians may have special needs. I know they can have a zinc issue, and I think they may need a little more A than other dogs--but a multivitamin could handle those things. Just without more specifics, I'd suggest keeping the pup on the original food for at least a week, and if the pup gets sick in any way, continue the old food through the illness and two weeks beyond before starting the changeover.

To change foods, I'd suggest 2 weeks, or more if the pup seems prone to soft stools in the least. Start by going to 75% old food and 25% new. For a really fast change, we do each of these steps for one day, but with a young puppy or any dog not 100% healthy, I go a lot slower. So, continue that level a few to several days, and then go to 50% of each food. After a few to several days of that, go to 25% old food and 75% new food for several days. Then to 100% new food.

As to when to switch to adult food, never past a year of age with large breeds, due to the increased incidence of bone problems in dogs who get puppy food for too long--or in some situations, get it at all when they are ready for new homes. Many now recommend having puppies on adult food by the time they go to their new homes. Another recommendation is 3 months on puppy food and then go to adult food. There are large breed puppy foods to consider, but I wouldn't. My dogs get a food that's for all life stages, plus they get vitamins.

It's very individual. Find out from the breeder if any foods have caused problems or been particularly good for her bloodlines of dogs. And the final authority would be your veterinarian, at least while the pup is so young.

Dogs are highly dependent on the friendly bacteria in their intestines to digest their food--otherwise they get diarrhea, it shoots right through, they do not get the nutrients from it, it keeps the intestines irritated, and friendly bacteria are further kept from setting up the colonies the dog needs in there. So you want to make this transition slowly in order for the pup's intestines to have time to develop the correct bacteria to digest the new food.

Another thing to know is to be very quick to add friendly bacteria to your dog's diet whenever there is diarrhea or the dog has to take antibiotics. Yogurt has far too few organisms to fill this need fast enough. Get to a good health food store in the refrigerated section and buy a superdophilus, acidophilus, multidophilus or similar name, in capsules, with the largest number of organisms per capsule. It takes a lot, it really does! Keep it in your refrigerator.

It tastes good, so when your dog needs it you can just open the capsule and dump the contents on the food, or some dogs will crunch up the capule and eat it as a treat. I think we would have far fewer long-term intestinal problems in dogs if people would just do this simple thing.

Of course if you have any doubts about giving the friendly bacteria supplement, ask your veterinarian. There's a reason we call these bacteria friendly! They are not yeast and they don't cause disease. But your dog does not need the supplements all the time. Only when on antibiotics (and probably for awhile after completing the antibiotics) and whenever the dog has diarrhea.
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Kathy Diamond Davis, author, "Therapy Dogs: Training Your Dog to Reach Others," 2nd edition, and the free Canine Behavior Series articles at http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=SRC&S=1&SourceID=47

SHvar Dec 09, 2006 02:25 AM

Alot of research, once you go raw you would never want to subject your dog to dogfood again. I love it, here are some videos.
Duke eating the basis of raw meaty bones, chicken backs for breakfast. Usually he "wolfs" them down in a few minutes or less. Hes hamming it up for the camera today. Yes you can hear the bones crunching on the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hhoCPozSFg

Hers fish day, a whole headless whiting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f78eY6CERac

He also eats large turkey wings, turkey necks, chicken necks, and a raw mixture of beef meat, bones, lung, organs, tripe, fruits, veggies, whole eggs, etc. Once a week he gets a few ounces of tripe added extra.
He gets salmon oil, and glucosamine, condroitin, and MSM mixed with desicated liver added on top sometimes. Then every few days or so a brewers yeast tablet.
They grow so fast. Heres my 1 year and 1 month old puppy, hes over 65 lbs.
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