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Hunting for sport, or food?

acgoring Nov 09, 2007 01:47 PM

I know all about how Sibes are different from many other breeds when it comes to their instincts for survival etc... However nothing could prepare me for what I found when I woke early early this morning to strange sounds from my yard. (DO NOT READ ON IF YOU HAVE A WEAK STOMACH)
Colt is 1.5 years old. We live in Taiwan, and we have rats. Colt loves to chase the cockroaches (ya!! works better than RAID) and has left me a couple rats. This time a not-so-smart stray cat came into the yard... not a pretty sight. I would say he did more than play with it. I had to get him away from the thing twice, and finally got Colt tied up (yes the cat definitely died).
What was his motive here?? This kind of scares me. Did he intend to make a meal of it?
Anyways this is certainly a testament to the hunting skills and instincts of the husky... I think I won't consider a cat as a pet.

Replies (11)

wpglaeser2003 Nov 09, 2007 02:53 PM

It's totally instinct. Sibes should never be trusted around pet cats, rabbits, rodents, etc. My adult Sibe (Nikki) cornered an opossum in the yard last year. It hissed and yelled at her. They have really sharp claws and teeth. (This was in the middle of the night, by the way, and woke us up.) Anyway, when I tried to get her away from it, she lunged at it. I thought she killed it, because she carried it a way before I could get her to drop it and I could chase her into the house. A few hours later (when the Sun came up), I went in the yard to dispose of the body, and it was gone. So, I suppose it literally "played possum" and wasn't dead.

However, Nikki has disposed of newborn wild bunnies, pretty much swallowing them whole in front of my screaming daughter and wife!

Walt

SHvar Nov 09, 2007 08:17 PM

My sibe and sibe mix have spent almost their entires lives with a cat (big tough orange tabby), they see him as a higher ranking pack member, not as a small furry play toy or food. But they must be raised from very very young with cats, and this may only work with the cats they live with sometimes.
Ive known sibes to live fine with, and be so gentle with their own cat pack members, then kill cats outdoors that do not belong in their territory or nearby.
In a small tight area with alot of verticle climbing spaces a cat does fine getting away, but with open area for a sibe to build speed and make use of their legendary endurance, a cat stands no chance, also a cat runs away in response to fear in most cases, this causes that extreme prey drive to kick in.
I know sibes that used to jump fences, or dig under them, then bring back headless rabbits and smile on the back porch with blood covering their faces when the owner comes out.
It has to be a cat that knows how to behave around sibes also, one that responds by defending himself to the sibes attack instead of running, this reinforces that the cat is not prey.

itobean Nov 10, 2007 06:37 AM

That video clip is awesome! My cat plays with our huskies like that too! But like you mentioned, my cat was here way before the huskies were and they respect the cat as the dominant. Now we have a new husky who we have to watch around the cat because she is not used to him and we don't want her to hurt the cat.

And no matter how wonderfully sweet you may think your husky is...their instincts do come first. Mine wouldn't hurt a flea but when they find a rare field mouse, it's a gonner. It's just instinct. A husky will always be a husky!

Chelle Nov 12, 2007 09:29 AM

The prey drive is incredibly strong in huskies- and my breed as well. It's not "sport" to them, it's instinct. The chase is real and the result is just as real- they will kill if the prey gets caught. Wolves are opportunistic hunters which means if a prey item crosses their path, they will give chase and try to catch it. Our domesticated dogs even though they are fed will still not give up the hunt and chase because even though they may not be hungry, their instincts tell them to hunt for the pack as well. It's unfortunate about the cat, but it doesn't surprise me. I have no doubt my two would do the same if a stray wandered in our yard.
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Chelle and the rest of the crew including, but not limited to Kita and Taiko (the shiba inu wrestle maniacs), Adi (reserved and dignified tabby cat), and all 28 reptiles

Rouen Nov 14, 2007 10:33 PM

A husky wont stop if theres more than one target, so in that sence it is sport. someone I know that has poultry recently lost 9 birds (and has several that are still recovering) in one attack from their neighbors husky.

SHvar Nov 15, 2007 11:04 AM

The only animal that hunts for sport is MAN.
It is pure instinct, they see the small animals running and they chase sometime killing and sometimes eating, it does not involve any entertainment or sport.
They just do it, it is something husky owners have to adapt to, and to prevent from happening. These dogs lived in eastern Siberia for thousands of years, during the summer they were released to run (when that short time prevented them from being sled dogs) in which they hunt on their own for ducks, geese, and deer, they are pack animals, they do it out of instinct to feed the pack. They do it because they require thousands of calories while pulling a sled in subzero temps, therefore they take advantage of any source available.
These dogs are very similar in so many ways to their ancestor the wolf for many reasons, one is that they were left closest to natures own design to allow for survival in one of the harshest places on the planet (most people dont realize that what features make the best sled dogs for the arctic make them some of the most challenging housepets, and possibly the worst dogs to allow around small animals).
Ever notice why most shelters do not keep sibes or greyhounds, both are legendary at chasing down, killing and tearing apart small animals, cats, and small dogs unless they are taught not to. If you were to adopt one of these animals from a shelter, and it did what comes natural, you returned it, the law says it must be put down, therefore these breeds go to rescues, which are more experienced and alot more strict at who they adopt to, and are worried about giving the best life possible to the dogs with the best possible owners (read over a rescues adoption contract and requirements once).

RyanJB Nov 15, 2007 07:27 PM

I've always wondered. They let them loose during summer, how do they get them back? LOL.

SHvar Nov 15, 2007 10:56 PM

Just realize that returning to the humans (any human in fact) increases their chance at survival. This is one reason that they love everyone, they may have different owners all of the time.
Its funny, some were also used to herd reindeer, I dont know how they do that, samoyeds I can see, but sibes would rather chase the reindeer, then run away. In fact a local herding breed rescue gets samoyeds that fail in herding from somewhere.

RyanJB Nov 18, 2007 10:59 PM

Someone needs to talk to the tribe and find out the secret to their apparently country-wide recall command. LOL. A lot of us could use it!

acgoring Nov 16, 2007 07:29 AM

Here's the update...
Well, no one came knocking about missing a cat. I finally got some sleep after the incident.
Colt was depressed and howling the following night... he obviously noticed that I was angry over him (maybe) trying to catch his and my dinner.

That, and anonymous felines have been urinating on my scooter every night since.

SHvar Nov 17, 2007 11:54 PM

Protect your scooter from them, lol. Although he might urinate on it to, lol.
Just kidding, sometimes you get the cat, sometimes the cat gets you.

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