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Humm... I wrote all about it this afternoon but I guess it didn't post. Well, here goes again.

I mentioned on another post that Ayla was shivering. It started Wednesday night. I took her temp it was a normal 101.3 so I put her under the covers to sleep. It really wasn't that cold but seemed to settle her.

The whole next day she would shiver on and off. Temp 102 We started moving furniture out of the living room for the guy to fix the floor so I thought she was unsettled because of that. Both of us stayed in the basement because last time it really smelled. This time it didn't (I hope he used the same stuff)

So my vet's very young associate comes in. (My vet is doing more and more in surgerys and less in visits so I will have to make sure I ask for her before coming in.) Temp was 104 this time. She said Ayla seemed perfectly fine otherwise.
I brought in a fresh stool which was clean of worms. Lymes test was negative (you know they have a test that shows results in 10 minutes now?) I asked if it could be heart worm die off since I had to give her pill later but she said no.
So they took blood to send out to a lab. Will know by Monday.

She isn't shivering as much anymore.
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Dee and Ayla

>>Humm... I wrote all about it this afternoon but I guess it didn't post. Well, here goes again.
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>>I mentioned on another post that Ayla was shivering. It started Wednesday night. I took her temp it was a normal 101.3 so I put her under the covers to sleep. It really wasn't that cold but seemed to settle her.
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>>The whole next day she would shiver on and off. Temp 102 We started moving furniture out of the living room for the guy to fix the floor so I thought she was unsettled because of that. Both of us stayed in the basement because last time it really smelled. This time it didn't (I hope he used the same stuff)
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>>So my vet's very young associate comes in. (My vet is doing more and more in surgerys and less in visits so I will have to make sure I ask for her before coming in.) Temp was 104 this time. She said Ayla seemed perfectly fine otherwise.
>>I brought in a fresh stool which was clean of worms. Lymes test was negative (you know they have a test that shows results in 10 minutes now?) I asked if it could be heart worm die off since I had to give her pill later but she said no.
>>So they took blood to send out to a lab. Will know by Monday.
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>>She isn't shivering as much anymore.
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>>Dee and Ayla

Oh Dee, how disturbing! Poor little Ayla. I will be praying for you all...
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Oh Dee, I'm so sorry to hear that Ayla had the shivers again. Glad the Lyme test was negative. I wonder if perhaps she could have been a little nervouse with things being a little busy around the house. Be sure and let us know what you hear Monday. I'll keep her in my prayers.

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Mary Lou & Katie

Well, $198 later and we find that Ayla is fine. Blood tests came back normal. The vet thinks it may be the fact that the furniture movement bothered her.

She hasn't shivered at all today.

Could have saved myself the money and waited for Mary Lou's answer....hum....
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Dee and Ayla

>>Well, $198 later and we find that Ayla is fine. Blood tests came back normal. The vet thinks it may be the fact that the furniture movement bothered her.
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>>She hasn't shivered at all today.
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>> Could have saved myself the money and waited for Mary Lou's answer....hum....
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>>Dee and Ayla

Our Vet doesn't bat an eye when she tells us what something is going to cost. Unfortunately one of these days health care for pets is only going to be affordable to the well to do. Glad to hear that the vet doesn't think Ayla's problem is anything other than what Dr. Mary Lou diagnosed. Just chill out Ayla!
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Gary & the gang

Thanks, Gary but I don't think I'd trust my own judgement with Katie....off to the vet she would go, LOL

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Mary Lou & Katie

Glad all turned out well, Dee. It's better to be safe than sorry, Dee,
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Mary Lou & Katie

>>Glad all turned out well, Dee. It's better to be safe than sorry, Dee,
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Yea, I know Mary Lou. I was trying to remember if the last time she was shivering was when we moved the furniture or not and I seem to think it was.
Soooo, Dr Mary Lou, it is your job to ask me if I moved furniture around if Ayla ever shivers again
Just kidding but you know you will if I mention her shivering again. ::hug
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Dee and Ayla

Well, the shivering pretty much went away after the vet visit but I woke up this morning because she was shivering again. I put her under the blankets and she just kept on going. I brought her downstairs where she drank some water and peeped but then she wanted to go back upstairs.

Think she had a nightmare?

The only other thing is that I had to wait on giving her the heartworm pill until the 15th because of the vomiting and this started on the 17th. ???
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Dee and Ayla

Again, I'm just guessing, Dee but it seems like she starts to shiver if she gets frightened by something. I forget...how old is Ayla, Dee?
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Mary Lou & Katie

>>Again, I'm just guessing, Dee but it seems like she starts to shiver if she gets frightened by something. I forget...how old is Ayla, Dee?
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She is going to be 4 this November.
Think maybe she had a bad dream? Maybe she couldn't find her way through the moved furniture?

On another site, they told me I was taking all the calcium and magnesium out of her food by cooking it and removing the big bones. My vet said it was okay, the ground bones were for calcium and taking out the big ones wouldn't make a difference.

The one woman on the site did say that lack of calcium can cause shivering and seziures... And I didn't mention the seziure she had couple months ago.

She is not shivering now although her little feet where kicking in her dream.
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Dee and Ayla

I called the vet's office and they did check calcium levels in the blood test. All was fine.

ML, you know I'm kidding you, right? Can't hear the tone of my voice to know...
I truely believe that sometimes friends with the same breed have more insite then vets. We know our pups
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Dee and Ayla

Yes, we do know our pups, Dee and each have their own little habits. As I mentioned before, I don't know why Katie doesn't have a stiff neck the way she often times sleeps in her bed. I wouldn't be able to move my neck if I slept the way she does, LOL

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Mary Lou & Katie

I think that they do dream, Dee. My beagle, Chipper, use to run in his sleep. His little legs would be moving like crazy as he ran. Glad to hear that Ayla isn't shivering now.

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Mary Lou & Katie

She pooped regular then later on, she pooped this weird mucusy stuff with the poop. I wondered if it was something she ate and realized between me getting ready to go out and my husband going out, I didn't feed her. My thing got cancelled so I stayed home. She didn't cry, she asked for a treat.

So now I'm wondering is she is getting a colitis or something. Get upset, shiver and mucusy diaharra.

I gave her just a little of dinner so she wasn't hungry or overful.
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Dee and Ayla

I am certainly not a Vet and you were right to take her right in, 104 is a serious temperature as normal for a dog is 99-100 or so, sometimes a fever is a reaction to an infection of some kind or many other things, but it is a signal that her body is fighting soemthing. She shivered because of her fever. The blood work hopefully will reveal the culprit. Saying prayers it is nothing serious.

PS: They can also get tick fever from ticks that do not carry Lymes.
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Denice
DnD Shih Tzu
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Hey Denice, nice to have you back.

I was told that the normal temperature for a dog is 101-102. It also says that on all the web sites I looked up when I couldn't remember. I took her temperature when she was shivering and it was 101 or 102, never higher. At the vet it was 104 and vet didn't seem concerned because of the excitement.

Vet listened to her heart, lungs and said she looked like she was perfectly healthy. The blood test came back normal. She stopped shivering that afternoon. (someone on another site mentioned low calcium levels will cause shivering and seizures but that was normal too)

I gave her the heartworm pill on the 15th because I waited from the vomitting the week before. Early morning on the 17th she was shivering. I wondered if it could be from that vet didn't think so.

She shivered once more in the early morning and then stopped.

The other day, she had a real slimmy poo, mucus. She was acting different but I didn't know what she wanted. I realized I had forgotten to feed her. The poo looked like what a dog with colitis would have. She has not had it since.

I am wondering if moving the furniture around, knowing something was up, having a nightmare and me forgetting to feed her are all nervous stuff to her.
She still nurses and kneads her bed. I really think the breeder took her away from the mother and fed her goats milk to try to keep her small.

The furniture is all back and she seems perfectly fine again. Although I am up all through the night checking one her )
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Dee and Ayla