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I've spoken to many ACD owners and breeders, and a common debate is that of breeding more Dingo back into the line. Opinions?
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~*~*Blue Moon Kennel*~*~
CKC registered Australian Cattle Dogs

you might enjoy a book which I'm sorry can't locate exact info

but its author is 'Coppinger' the title is "Dogs" with some reference to evolution of

they speak of the entire history of dog's with focus on type and purpose, then and now, all over the world. The relevancy to the survival of today's dog gives all of us alot to consider.

The style is easy to read, with culture and science blended so that the reader is entertained and left with eyes opened to see the dog as a species most amazing and yet so endangered at the hands of man.

As one with decades of experience with pure bred dog (never bred a pup), I personally am just as hesitant to support any breeding as I would be to purchase from a petstore.
Though I am aware of, and applaud those of you that are really doing it 'right'.

As for your question, after reading the book, I feel that almost any breeding back to more 'original' breeds could only improve the species. To take the 'commercialism' out of breeding dogs like they were cars with a color, size, design to fit any demand.
best, Lynn

I'll have to check out that book. It sounds really good.

I have the same feeling as you about bringing "fresh blood" to these breeds. Breeding in a breed's ancestor to the line would certainly accomplish that. And it would bring out the qualities and traits that the breed used to have that have unfortunately been bred out over the years. I'm with the group that agrees breeding dingo back in would benefit the breed.

But with that being said, it also needs to be done properly! Breeding ancestor breeds back into your breed of choice shouldn't be done by a "weekend breeder" or someone who's just starting out. It should only be done by someone who has been a professional breeder for quite awhile, has an excellent knowledge of their chosen breed, and also knows quite a bit about genetics. Also they need to pick just the right mating pair for things to turn out the right way. It's a VERY complicated process.

I understand the "ethics" arguments from the other camp. Like I said above, it's not for an amateur. But to say a knowledgeable breeder shouldn't "play with nature" is a bit backwards for them to say. At some point in time each breed of dog was "created" by someone knowledgeable of their chosen breeds. They bred different breeds of dogs to achieve a mix of certain traits and looks. So while I understand their concerns, I don't see issue with a pro trying to make their breed better. After all, that's the job of us breeders- to better our breed. Now for someone to try a crossbreeding like this simply for fun or profit is completely wrong and unethical. But to bring back traits to the breed that has been lost over time- it's a noble ambition (only to be tackled by the pros of course).
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~*~*Blue Moon Kennel*~*~
CKC registered Australian Cattle Dogs

I would guess the legal issues alone of having a wild animal bred with a domestic animal would create issues. At what point is the animal considered domesticated again? F1, F2... The wild cat debate is trying to get the law to accept F5, but it's currently not working in most states. I believe larger gene pools are of benefit to any breed, but in this age of being able to collect, store, and ship semen all over the world, that's probably a better place to start.
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Well as far as legality, that would be a state by state issue. For example, dealing with wolves and wolfdogs. In some states you can legally own, sell, and breed wolfdogs. While other states you can't do any of those things. Or some states allow you to own, but not sell, etc. So it all depends on what each state says about owning and breeding of "wild dogs."

For example, Ohio allows us to own, breed, and sell wolfdogs. Under Ohio law, wolfdogs are considered another "breed" of dog and are governed over just like any other "domesticated" dog. Dingos are also legal to own here without having an "exotic animal license."
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~*~*Blue Moon Kennel*~*~
CKC registered Australian Cattle Dogs