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Stability in the Middle East

herpconsultants2 Oct 11, 2003 07:03 AM

Someone mentioned stability in the Middle East yesterday. I just read this article and thought some of you may be interested (if anything because it isn't in anyway anti-American). The Israel situation is unsettling for me. I can see things going in a dark direction if they are allowed to continue in their current vein. It seems a simple solution to pull out of the West Bank, stop building in Palestinian territories, and move towards peace. Hell, if they want to continue with their "fence" then so be it. They wouldn't be the only country to have a physical barrier along their boundary. But, they HAVE to pull out of the West Bank. They are illegally occupying somebody elses territory, and people will inevitably react. And the bombing of Syria recently was a dangerous step backward. In my view, you cannot simply start targeting any country you think may hold terrorists. Every bloody country in the world would become a target!

Anyway, here's the article:

DAMASCUS (Reuters) - Syria has the right to exercise self-defence if Israel strikes its territory again as its warplanes did last weekend, a Foreign Ministry spokeswoman says.

Israel responded immediately, saying states harbouring terrorists were "legitimate targets".

"In case of a repetition (of an Israeli attack) Syria has the right to exercise self-defence," spokeswoman Bushra Kanafani told a press briefing in Damascus.

Israel carried out an airstrike last Sunday against what it said was a training camp for "terror groups" after a suicide bombing in Haifa in northern Israel that killed 20 people. The Islamic Jihad movement said it was behind the attack.

"Israel views every state which is harbouring terrorist organisations and the leaders of those terrorist organisations who are attacking innocent citizens of the state of Israel as legitimate targets out of self defence," Gideon Meir, a top Foreign Ministry spokesman said on Saturday in response to the Syrian comments.

"A state harbouring terrorist organisations who are attacking innocent civilians, which does not belong to the civilised family of nations, has no right to make comments about issues of self-defence."

He said such states were legitimate targets "to protect its citizens from horrifying terrorist attacks like the Israeli people experienced in a Haifa restaurant last Saturday."

Syria said the air raid was on a civilian area and that the offices of Palestinian factions in Syria only have media functions.

It denies links to "terrorist groups" but says there is a difference between terrorism and legitimate resistance to Israeli occupation.

It has demanded the U.N. Security Council condemn Israel for the attack, the deepest air raid into Syria by the Jewish state in 30 years.

Washington has said Syria must stop "harbouring terrorists", but urged both Israel and Syria to avoid actions that could enflame tensions in the region.

Replies (27)

ScottishCLK Oct 11, 2003 09:23 AM

The stability was in reference to Iraq, not the Middle East. Nice try though. That crap has been going on over there for over a thousand friggin' years. Israel has the right to defend itself as well. Do have anything new to report, braincell? How about facing your demons and answering Judy's posts LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD! And don't give us that "she was mean to me" crybaby stuff. By the way, number one or number two?

DevinP Oct 11, 2003 11:01 AM

"In my view, you cannot simply start targeting any country you think may hold terrorists. Every bloody country in the world would become a target!"

Your view is outdated. The US has, and will continue to target countries that hold terrorists.You only add unnecessary drama when you make ludicrous statements like "Every bloody country in the world would become a target!"

Drama Queen!

Devin P.

ScottishCLK Oct 11, 2003 12:00 PM

Quite melodramatic, isn't he?

Anti-

DevinP Oct 11, 2003 12:10 PM

Or did I just say hello to myself? Ha Ha Fred! Just because you ans "sobek" are the same guy, it doesn't mean that we are.

Bush 2004

Devin P.

ScottishCLK Oct 11, 2003 12:13 PM

He's just saying that to divert the attention fron his deceptive ways. No big deal. We know who he is.

herpconsultants2 Oct 11, 2003 05:10 PM

We have terrorists within the UK. Are we targets too?

ScottishCLK Oct 11, 2003 06:25 PM

That's funny. I thought you said you didn't have time to "dig up the correspondence" between you and Judy via e-mail. Low and behold, here you are again posting away, lol. Such a hypocrite. How about posting those e-mails so we can see how "rude" and insensitive Judy was, lol. Unless of course there's something in there you wouldn't want us to see. Oh, and...number one or number two?

herpconsultants2 Oct 12, 2003 07:11 AM

Actually, aside from the time thing, I actually don't wish to give Judy any more of my time on those previous matters. As for posting here, I can do what I like! Posting a one line Q is hardly taxing! And what the number 1 and number 2 is all about I haven't got a clue.

So do I take it that the UK is a target? Oh, and there are terrorists in the US. Should Israel target you as well?

ScottishCLK Oct 12, 2003 09:26 AM

That's what I thought. I didn't think you'd post those e-mails, even though you were the one who suggested it. U.S. terrorists? LOL. Your reaching again. If your talking about the terrorists from the Middle East that are here, we're taking steps to eliminate them. Again you've evaded the issue. How are the terrorists in the UK threatening us? If you're going to bring up an irrelevant point, then please elaborate on why it pertains to anything we're discussing. By the way, why do you keep entertaining posts from people you claim you are above responding to anymore? And why do you guys selectively answer posts. Why not entertain all of them?

DevinP Oct 12, 2003 10:36 AM

Drama Queen!

Devin P.

ScottishCLK Oct 11, 2003 07:17 PM

The terrorists in the "UK" never terrorized the U.S. If they support terrorists that threaten the U.S., which they don't braincell, then they would get the same treatment. Duh-uh.

herpconsultants2 Oct 12, 2003 07:14 AM

So, what you are saying is, if a group of extermists from say London, bombed Washington, that the US would start bombing London?

You see how ridiculous this is?

ScottishCLK Oct 12, 2003 09:29 AM

We wouldn't have to bomb London. You guys would be much easier to infiltrate to get rid of all the rif-raf. But if all of London was filled with people like you, I would definitely condone bombing it.

DevinP Oct 12, 2003 10:40 AM

Excellent post!

Devin P.

herpconsultants2 Oct 12, 2003 01:08 PM

Just a few stats for you. Approximately 55% of the UK was against the invasion of Iraq. That figure has now risen to about 75% dissatisfaction with the continued occupation of the area. So I guess I'm not alone here! You see, that's what you don't seem to understand, I'm not some kind of radical. In fact, I am the "norm" here in the UK. And also the rest of Europe, and the rest of the world. So what does that tell you? Can so many people be wrong?

Maybe they can. But the only thing I am against here now is unlawful killing, and the continued occupation. Now from an objective point of view that doesn't make me sound so crazy! For example, the next time the IRA bomb London, I don't expect our governement to sink to their level and retaliate. We have never done so in the past and I know we won't do that now. I still don't think the situation is perfect and I may not have answers, but I think I know what should NOT be done. And it seems 75% of my nation are also crazy brainless mindless fools with herpes like me!

ScottishCLK Oct 12, 2003 01:37 PM

When are you going to realize that I could care less what any percentage of the UK was or is against us? And yes, so many people can be wrong. You can spew all the stats you want, that doesn't mean it's the norm or that your "stats" are accurate. As far as our "occupation" of Iraq is concerned, your statements are meaningless. You know as well as I do that if we left then you would criticize us for that too. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. In any case, we know what we're doing and don't need your approval to do it. So when are you going to post those e-mails that you threatened you would be posting in order to show us how rude Judy was being? And are you standing by your fear of entertaining her previous posts that you said you would "endeavour to give the response they deserve tomorrow"?

DevinP Oct 12, 2003 02:01 PM

Maybe his concern for the "marshlands in Southern Iraq" have consumed all of his precious time. What a joker!

Devin P.

ScottishCLK Oct 12, 2003 02:08 PM

Nah. He's just afraid that posting certain things will incriminate him with regard to being a fibber. I don't believe he answered Judy's questions privately and I think there's something in those e-mails that he doesn't want to expose for all to see.

herpconsultants2 Oct 12, 2003 06:18 PM

Ask Judy to post the emails, I have erased them!

ScottishCLK Oct 12, 2003 08:11 PM

How convenient. Don't pass the buck liar! You're the one who said you wanted to post them. Buk-bgawk!

DevinP Oct 12, 2003 01:56 PM

"Can so many people be wrong?" How many Germans were wrong in the 1930's and 1940's? Get it smart guy?

You are hilarious if you thing that the way you people handle that situation could serve as guidelines for anybody. Get a grip!

Devin P.

DevinP Oct 12, 2003 01:58 PM

Devin P.

DevinP Oct 12, 2003 10:38 AM

Drama Queen!

Devin P.

DevinP Oct 12, 2003 10:34 AM

operate within your country? No, you are not, so the answer is "NO" the UK is not a target. Get it Drama Queen?

Devin P.

herpconsultants2 Oct 12, 2003 01:10 PM

You think the IRA hasn't been active within my country for decades? Either I'm a brainless idiot or my whole country has been misled! I suggest you do some reading!

ScottishCLK Oct 12, 2003 01:38 PM

I'll pick number one. You are a brainless idiot.

DevinP Oct 12, 2003 01:59 PM

You are a mindless idiot AND 75% of your country are clueless.

Devin P.

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