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PHCA Supported Entry Results question

XODogs Jul 28, 2010 02:24 PM

I was looking up the PHCA Supported Entry @ Chatham hosted by Hudson River Valley Hound Association and did not see any Select Male listed. Was there a select male? I want to make sure I have the results correct for my website, thanks.

http://www.infodog.com/RESULTS/2010562603/201056260328000.HTM

JUDGE: Mr. P. Levi Marsman

PHARAOH HOUNDS. 12 & Under 18 Months Dogs.
1 17 HALLAMS IMOLA'S GHOST. HP 34800803. 06-07-09
By DC Hallams's Ethan Ramel MC - Ch Hallam's Phaith Of Bekby JC. Owner: John & Denise Gentile & Dominic Carota & Stephen Sipp., Guilford, CT 064371857. Breeder: Dominic Carota & Stephen Sipperly.

2 25 KAMARAJ ACHILLES TITAN TH-E-BROD. HP 34537101. 04-28-09
By Ch Merymut Achilles - DC Kamaraj Jezebel Bint Ramz MC LCX. Owner: Ben Brodeur & Moe Brodeur., Peabody, MA 019605151. Breeder: Marilyn Smith.

PHARAOH HOUNDS. Open Dogs.
2/R 21 FC MIA'S HEARTS AFIRE. HP 25733507. 04-11-07
By Ch Jomara's Mystic Tuthmosis Ra - Ch Shalimar-Mia Earth Wind & Fire SC. Owner: Carol Guest., Amherstburg ON, CN N9V 3R3. Breeder: Laree Drolet & Pam Haig & Marie Henke.

1/W/BW 27 STARCHILD'S BUDDHA OF SUBURBIA. HP 32809402. 01-12-09
(3 Points) By Ch XOEZ - Ch XO Gold Card.
Owner: Lawyer & Kayla Twillie & Sarah Heimburg., West Hartford, CT 061072015. Breeder: Sarah & Darren Heimburg.

PHARAOH HOUNDS. 12 & Under 18 Months Bitches.
1/R 12 KAMARAJ ACHILLES BALIUS. HP 34537105. 04-28-09
By DC Merymut Achilles - DC Kamaraj Jezebel Bint Ramz MC LCX. Owner: Marilyn M Smith., Hudson, NH 030516422. Breeder: Marilyn Smith.

PHARAOH HOUNDS. Bred by Exhibitor Bitches.
1/W 14 KAMARAJ AMNERIS. HP 15731903. 05-04-05
(2 Points) By Ch Kamaraj Baharia Ibn Ramz - Ch Kamaraj Ahhi Nephthys. Owner: Marilyn M Smith., Hudson, NH 030516422. Breeder: Marilyn M Smith.

PHARAOH HOUNDS. Open Bitches.
A 8 TIARA NEKABU MA'AT C'RENA. HP 29770901. 11-12-07
By Ch TiaRa Nekabu Ruler Of Kings - Ch Kamlyn's Amazon Warrior SC. Owner: Diane Conyers & Kim Grega., Richmond Hill, NY 114181642. Breeder: Kim Grega & Jan Ault.

2 10 OSIRIS MAKING HEADLINES. HP 34224502. 12-15-08
By Ch XO's Invincible JC - Ch Osiris Lady In Red.
Owner: Kathryn & Brittany Carella., Hyannis, MA 026013609. Breeder: Kathryn Carella & Brittany Carella.

A 20 SOVRIN HALLAM SANKOFA. HP 27638806. 04-22-07
By Ch Hallam's Bekenkhons Ra Qena - Ch Antefa's Naomi-Nekhebi SC. Owner: Nancy Sowerbutts., Medford, NJ 08055. Breeder: N Sowerbutts & D Carota & S Sipperly.

1 24 KAMARAJ ACHILLES ADARA. HP 34537103. 04-28-09
By Ch Merymut Achilles - DC Kamaraj Jezebel Bint Ramz.
Owner: Brenda Shattuck & Warren Shattuck., Hudson, NH 030513804. Breeder: Marilyn M Smith.

PHARAOH HOUNDS. Best of Breed Competition.
B 7 CH XO EZ JC . HP 13333704. 06-06-04
By Ch XO Spectacular Spectacular - Ch Faouziah's Bohemia SC. Dog. Owner: Lori Evans & Joseph Buchanan & Ronald & Desiree Frank., Hyannis, MA 026013609. Breeder: Lori Evans.

9 DC KAMOSETS NEFERTUM BENU SC . HP 30422203. 04-12-08
By DC Kamaraj Kamosets Khufu MC - DC Kamaraj Kamosetts Zabelle Sirocco SC. Dog. Owner: Michael & Elizabeth Rotondi., Stoneham, MA 021801902. Breeder: Phil & Darleen Dimor.

11 CH CHARMEDWONS HAPPY-GO-LUCKY JC RN . HP 29772302. 01-14-08
By DC Nefer-Temu Mia Sambasonic SC RA - DC Sunwinds Sovrin Scheherazade SC RN. Dog. Owner: Deborah King & Rick King & Julie Gwin., Brentwood, NY 117177506. Breeder: Julie J Gwin & Judy L Rucker.

15 DC ZAFIS RIH SC. HP 17356502. 08-17-05
By DC Kamaraj Ka Ziffa SC - DC Farao Anubis Ramhira Ziffa SC. Dog. Owner: Jan Butterworth., Kingston, MA 023641312. Breeder: Jan Butterworth.

A 16 CH ANTEFA'S NAOMI-NEKHEBI SC. HN 00239801. 10-03-01
By Antefa's Jemhetep - Antefa's Lotus. Bitch. Owner: Nancy Sowerbutts., Medford, NJ 08055. Breeder: Annica & Monica Lundqvist.

A 18 DC SOVRIN MIA ELLA ENCHANTED OF HALLAM. HP 15703003. 06-11-05 By DC Farao Anubis Ramses SC - Ch Mia-Churuka Unchained Melody JC. Bitch. Owner: Nancy Sowerbutts., Medford, NJ 08055. Breeder: D Carota & S Sipperly & L Witt & N Sowerbutts.

19 CH KAMARAJ ACHILLES XANTHUS. HP 34537106. 04-28-09
By DC Merymut Achilles - DC Kamaraj Jezebel Bint Ramz MC LCX. Dog. Owner: Marilyn M Smith., Hudson, NH 030516422. Breeder: Marilyn M Smith.

OS 22 CH KAMARAJ NEFER CASSIOPEIN SC. HP 22536601. 07-20-06
By Ch Kamaraj Baharia IBN Ramz SC - Ch Kamaraj Ahhi Nephthys SC. Bitch. Owner: Brenda Shattuck & Marilyn M Smith., Hudson, NH 030513804. Breeder: Marilyn M Smith.

23 DC HALLAM'S ALAZAR LUKOR-AL-QENA. HP 01586301. 07-05-02
By Ch Enigma See You Later SC - Ch Kamaraj Qena-Saqqara. Dog. Owner: Marlene Moore & Stephen Sipperly & Dominic Carota., Derry, NH 030385411. Breeder: Dr Stephen Sipperly.

SEL 28 CH TIARA NEKABU SHOW ME THE BUNNY. HP 33864103. 02-10-09
By Ch TiaRa's Abu's Made In The USA - Ch Kamlyn's Amazon Warrior. Bitch. Owner: Bonnie Folz & Kim Grega & Jan Ault., Howard Beach, NY 114143514. Breeder: Kimb Grega & Jan Ault.

PHARAOH HOUNDS. Veteran, 7 Years & Over.
1/BV 23 DC HALLAM'S ALAZAR LUKOR-AL-QENA. HP 01586301. 07-05-02
By Ch Enigma See You Later SC - Ch Kamaraj Qena-Saqqara.
Owner: Marlene Moore & Stephen Sipperly & Dominic Carota., Derry, NH 030385411. Breeder: Dr Stephen Sipperly.

PHARAOH HOUNDS. Veteran, 7 Years & Over.
A 16 CH ANTEFA'S NAOMI-NEKHEBI SC. HN 00239801. 10-03-01
By Antefa's Jemhetep - Antefa's Lotus.
Owner: Nancy Sowerbutts., Medford, NJ 08055. Breeder: Annica & Monica Lundqvist.

1 26 CH TIARA'S RED WHITE & ABLU SC . HM 98772803. 11-04-01
By DC Jomara's Mystic Shesep Ankh SC - Ch Kamlyn's Way To Go Tia JC. Owner: Bonnie & Billy Folz & Kim Grega., Howard Beach, NY 114143514. Breeder: Kimberly Grega.

Replies (5)

MauraANDBruce Jul 28, 2010 09:11 PM

Hi Lori - I was wondering the same thing, as I wasn't there.
I do know that the judge is not required to give out either SELECT awards if he/she chooses. Just seemed unusual.
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~Bruce and Maura McIntosh - loving owners of precocious CH Kamosetts Kebi of Abydos, Marley Monster (rescue), Ginger (12 year old boxer)

XODogs Jul 28, 2010 09:52 PM

The day before the judge, Lynne Schanzle, choose to not give any selects at all. This was the first time I saw that, even though I knew it was optional.

Judges are allowed to withhold ribbons in ALL classes, but you rarely see it. I think in 22 years of showing, I seen them withhold about 3 times. Once, they did give ribbons, but withheld 1st place, so no one could go back in to compete for Winners.

So I wondered if the with holding of Select was going to be as rare.. apparently not.

I still think it is odd to award the bitch, but not the dog. Especially with the quality of dogs that were there. I'm really thinking this is an error. Hopefully if there is a select dog out there, they will let us know!

Tetreault Jul 29, 2010 07:44 AM

Lori,

I haven't been to a show since last April. What is a Select dog? I'd appreciate knowing.

Linda T.

Mavides Jul 29, 2010 09:42 AM

It is an award that counts toward a grand championship title -- here's a link to the info on the Grand Championship rules.

http://www.worlddogpress.net/dogshows-america/86-american-kennel-club-announces-new-grand-champion-title.html

Link

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Shawna and
CH Galadrial's Aurora Red du Ciel, SC, RA, CGC
U-CD FO GRCH CH Ciel Legend Vom Stefanhaus, CDX, RAE, OJP, PT, JHD, CS, CI, CX, RL1, BH, TT, CGC, TDIAV
and other furry "kids"!

MauraANDBruce Jul 30, 2010 03:22 PM

I think it may not be as rare with SELECTs as with the other ribbons. I think some judges are still trying to figure it out - and I think other judges may disagree with it.
I was at a show recently where 2 behaviors occured - 1 judge was awarding the SELECTS to CLASS dogs (which can't happen - so the award was meaningless and no one would get credit)! and at the same show another judge was not awarding ANY!! The handlers reported this to the rep and the judge was spoken to - I did overhear some of the conversation where the judge was told that he needed to have a REASON why he withheld SELECT if there was an eligible dog.

I also think that judges were not aware that in addition to BOB get Grand CHampion points, that BOS got points too (if they were available) - and not just SELECTS. It was late in JUNE when the AKC issued a much better document showing how all of this works. This document clearly called out how the BOS points worked (where the previous one pretty much left BOS out).
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~Bruce and Maura McIntosh - loving owners of precocious CH Kamosetts Kebi of Abydos, Marley Monster (rescue), Ginger (12 year old boxer)

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