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You be the judge: gait discussion

kaije Sep 05, 2010 06:30 PM

At a resent show, a judge was judging three dogs. The judge after examining all three and watched their go arounds, stopped to look up something in the breed standard. The she made her choice and explained why she did. I looked up the particular standard and this is what it says:

GAIT

Movement is free and flowing, the dog covering the ground well without any apparent effort. The head is held fairly high. The legs and feet move in line with the body.

Faults: Hackney action. Any tendency to throw the feet sideways.

According to the judge Dog "A" was double line tracking, Dog "B" was too wide on the gait and Dog "C" was single tracking.

Based on the standard above, which dog would you say fit this definition of the standard?

I will tell you which dog the judge actually picked after some answers are given.... AND said this is exacxtly what the standard looks for...
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Bekki and
Atreyu AKA BIF FC DesertPhoenix Emerald Warrior, FCH,CGC,SC,RA,NA HIC, PHCA Versatility Excellent 2008
Bridget AKA ILP Kaije Staind Glass Beauty "Resident Cheerleader"
Uber aka AKC CH, UKC MBBIS CH XO Uber Alles, SC
La-La aka FC XO Ulala,SC 2010 PHCA Western Specialty Best of Winners

Replies (7)

Carmen Sep 05, 2010 09:10 PM

The Illustrated Guide to the Pharaoh Hound is the PHCA approved discussion on the PH standard. A copy is given to every judge that attends an education seminar. Here is the discussion on gait:

Single tracking, although a mark of excellence in many other breeds, should be severely penalized.

Viewed from the side, the gait of the Pharaoh Hound, moving at a trot of moderate speed, should be free, smooth and powerful, with great reach in front and great drive behind. This necessitates correct and balanced front and rear angulation. Viewed from the side, the back should remain level while the dog is in motion and should not sag, sway or bounce, nor be constricted or roached. The side view reveals if the front step is the same length as the rear step and if front and rear angulation are correct and in balance.

When moving away from the viewer, the rear feet and legs of the dog should move directly forward with hocks parallel to each other and in line with the body. If the hocks are too wide apart or too close together, the dog will not have freedom of movement. Cow-hocks make correct movement impossible to achieve. Although the fault of hocks turning out is not as common as the faults of moving too closely or with hocks turning inward, all of these faults are to be considered serious.

When approaching the viewer, the dog's front legs should move in line with his body and should be parallel to each other. Shoulder problems become apparent here. Loose shoulders usually are illustrated in motion by the elbows turning outward and front feet turning inward. The total action in this case is a fault called "weaving", which is actually the crossing of the front feet while gaiting. Another serious fault is "paddling" caused by constriction of the shoulder, in which the front feet are thrown outward while moving and at the same time the elbows remain close to the body. Equally serious is that fault in which the dog throws his weight from side to side when moving towards the observer. This is usually caused by a too-wide front or barrel rib cage impeding the action of the elbows, causing them to turn outward when the dog is in motion. Additional faults are a high-stepping "hackney" action or dragging the feet. The dog must clear the ground easily, without prancing, an action which would inhibit the required powerful flow of movement.

Single tracking and, worse, crossing rears are far too common in our breed.
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Carmen Davis, owned by Serra, Glory and Rooney
Naha Pharaoh Hounds - Washington State
www.NahaPharaohs.com

MiaPharaohs Sep 05, 2010 09:25 PM

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Pam Haig
Mia Pharaohs
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galadrialphs Sep 07, 2010 12:59 PM

Dog "A" was double line tracking

kaije Sep 07, 2010 06:09 PM

Welll....

The judge picked Dog C, I was disturbed by this hence the reason I posted. So I cut and pasted some of the responses from here and on facebook into a word document, taking out any identifying information.

I went to the show chairman the next day explaining that I did not want to be confrontational, but she is a newer judge and I know it is impossible to memorize the detail of 380 breeds AND especially on a breed she doesn't see too much, so I wanted it to be an educational session.

The chairman, the judge and I had a very friendly discussion. She said, "did I say I picked the dog because it had single tracking?" I said yes, and she said...no...that's not what I meant on the pick dog. So I played off that I misunderstood to keep it friendly. I said, oh good, I'm glad I misunderstood, but here take this information anyways, for next time. She read it and was very pleased. She said the UKC standard is very vague about gait for Pharaoh Hounds. I said I agree.

So it all worked out, things were kept friendly, and now she has been educated as well....

So thank you!
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Bekki and
Atreyu AKA BIF FC DesertPhoenix Emerald Warrior, FCH,CGC,SC,RA,NA HIC, PHCA Versatility Excellent 2008
Bridget AKA ILP Kaije Staind Glass Beauty "Resident Cheerleader"
Uber aka AKC CH, UKC MBBIS GRCH XO Uber Alles, SC
La-La aka UKC CH XO Ulala,SC 2010 PHCA Western Specialty Best of Winners

Carmen Sep 07, 2010 09:34 PM

>>So it all worked out, things were kept friendly, and now she has been educated as well....
>>Bekki

Sounds like it all worked out, Bekki. Great job! You can see the entire illustrated standard on the PHCA website. Also, hunt down on of the Education Committee and ask them for one of the booklets. I keep one in my show bag.
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Carmen Davis, owned by Serra, Glory and Rooney
Naha Pharaoh Hounds - Washington State
www.NahaPharaohs.com

XODogs Sep 08, 2010 07:51 AM

Bekki..

I think it would be interesting to research why there are differences in the UKC standard from all other standards. The change of wording in the movement, is not the only deviation.
Read about 'white'.... quite different.

Also.. I would like to know how single tracking would impede movement? I will admit, I've never understood why our standard calls for parallel tracking. I breed for it, but the dogs I get that tend to single track cover ground as effeciently, if not more so sometimes, than the parallel trackers. Parallel trackers tend more to shift their weight from side to side at the lower speeds from what I've seen... and this is in dogs that are not wide in body.

When almost every other breed standard.. including some similar breeds like the Beezers.. calls for single tracking.. this just cannot be considered an inefficient gait.

Why specifically does the Pharaoh need parallel tracking on the terrain on which they hunt??

Carmen Sep 08, 2010 01:57 PM

>>Why specifically does the Pharaoh need parallel tracking on the terrain on which they hunt??

Hopefully some of the old-timers on here will reply. But the explanation I heard involves the terrain on Malta. Our dogs are moving at a fast trot over lots of rocks and rough terrain. A slightly wider base allows easier correction and anticipation in foot placement. Remember we're not talking w-i-i-i-d-e here and the legs do move more toward center the faster they go.

Also, hunting rabbit in very rocky terrain necessitates lightning fast sudden changes of direction as they see a rabbit in a crevice, or whatever. Just like we need a light-footed wide stance in soccer . . .

Anyway, would love to heard what others have said.
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Carmen Davis, owned by Serra, Glory and Rooney
Naha Pharaoh Hounds - Washington State
www.NahaPharaohs.com

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