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I have a friend back east who along with his partner are interested in this Mexican Hairless dog. I did some reading on my own and I don't think it is for a first time dog owner. Anyone want to chime in on the breed good or bad. All comments are welcome. Both humans have allergies and so they are looking for more of a hypo-allergenic dog. Can anyone give me some feed back on the Chinese Crested?

Charlotte

LOVE,love,love the naked dogs. Xolos are very Pharaoh like to me, the standard size looks like a Pharaoh dipped in tar. The SBIS Xolo from last years Nationals was a Veteran,owned by a friend who also breeds Cresteds. Right now I am waiting for a Peruvian Inca Orchid,the breeding last year did not take & this years season is due soon
All three breeds would do just fine in a one dog home, to be loved & spoiled! If they have questions I could send her info your way,as she has all 3 breeds.
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BORN TO PARTY FORCED TO WORK.... HOME OF MULTI-BIF DC ZABELLE #1 ASFA PHARAOH FOR 2006 #5-2007 MAMA Of Seven 2008 Proud Mama of Best In Show Benu,B.O.B 2009 Region 9

Curious. Do all 3 sizes have the same temperment? Do they get along with other dogs? What size are you getting? I know George Molloy has a Peruvian Inca Orchid and his daughter adores him.
Debby

Thank you I would live to get the contact info. czfoley@hotmail.com Is the woman on the east coast?

Charlotte

As breeds, I really like both of these dogs. In fact, at one time I was interested in getting a Crested. I've been around a few Xolos and think they are great dogs. Biggest problem with either breed is the fact they have no protection from any kind of weather extremes. Sunburning is a potential problem has well as winter dry skin problems.
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Pam Haig
Mia Pharaohs
"Home of the good, the bad & the obnoxious"
How beautiful it is to do nothing and then rest afterward
*Spanish proverb"

I have no personal experience of Xolos or Cresteds. However, I did know several of Sara Marten's Inca Orchids and an Inca Orchid rescue that Sara placed locally. Based on those 5 dogs, I'd say Inca Orchids are only for very experienced owners. Highly indifferent to strangers and sometimes their owners.

I met the folks with the rescued Inca Orchid in the park one day. They told me several stories on the dog including that he was impossible to teach to sit. I whipped out my homemade liver treat and tried to lure him into a sit. You know, hold the treat in front of their nose and then slowly elevate it up and back. He liked the treat but would not budge. Ultimately he even became uninterested in the treat when I did not give it freely. Ran into the same couple again months later and they said after lots of intensive work that he would sit on command--usually. They loved his quirky personality--he climbed furniture and would perch on the back of the couch--and it was ok with them that he'd never learn down or have a reliable recall (scary to me).

My impression of these dogs were that they would be best suited with owners who understood and appreciated their very self-contained attitude. As I recall tbey did not like much petting at all. One of her dogs was a great courser as I recall. Jodi, Sheila, you probably saw Sara's Incas run more than I did. Am I remembering Sara's Incas well?
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Ruth
Sharing a home with
Gracie the Greyhound,
Bo, Galadrial's Cuervo Gold,
Harvey, CH. Lileo's Wild Rabbit Pooka, JC, CGC,

At the bridge--
HRH Chantze, Chart Polski, CGC (the most Polish Princess),
Rufous T. Firefly, CGC (my first PH--he knew how and when to beam a grin)

Thanks for everyone's comments. I saw red flags as soon as I started reading about the breed. I didn't think from what I read that this is a first time dog owner pet. The few Inca Orchids I have seen have terrible skin and lots and lots of moles. Yuck! I prefer out beautiful dogs any day.

Charlotte

Maybe they would be better with a hairless crested. At least they have sweeter personalities and very willing to please. Their skin as the other is high maintenance but they're smaller so less work.
Debby

Yes, I did spend a lot of time with Will and Sara's PIO's. They were a different kind of critter for sure!! You do know they come in 3 sizes and 3 coat varieites....but to be honest with you, some of the coated guys look a lot like a street dog!! I think it is very hard to describe a breed with that much varience in it's standard but then that is my opinion!!

As far as loyality, they were great...on their terms!! Like you said, teaching one to sit....forget it!! Recall....yea, I hear you but I'll come when I get around to it!! Walking the pack in the field, they reminded me of foxhounds...close but not too close but they moved as one unit and stayed together..for the most part!! And yes, they did like to be up high like a cat.

The best part of the hairless breeds is making all their warm winter coats to keep them toasty in the cold and if you run your A/C they might even need a lightweight summer jacket!! I agree with Pam on the sunburning and you do need to pay extra attention to the dry skin issues but as a whole, the hairless guys ( and girls! ) are pretty neat.

As a side note, the PIO's have lousy dentation...why you ask....from what I was told, they were one of the main food sorces in ancient times and when the hunters started breeding them for food, they kept the dogs with lousy dentation because they were easier to handle....not able to bite!! I think tho, if I knew I was being kept for the supper table, I would find a way to bite the hand that was feeding me!!!

PS...yes, the PIO's are lure coursing nuts!! My late Cirneco Ol'ta ran with many PIO's and IG's, giving the judges knowledge for future ASFA recogination of the 3 breeds.

Jodi and the 'gang'

Charlotte.....

We really need to stop missing each other on the phone calls.... then we can discuss breeds.

First, it is not usually the coat that causes allergy problems, it is the dog's skin oil. So first, advise them to meet, greet and rub on any dog they are considering. As a person with MANY allergies, I know mine are completely breed specific.

My good friend Jennifer Gielisse in the NL had many Xolos, plus there were other Xolos at every show I attended during my 5 years in Europe. I never saw a problem with their temperament.
Most were not bubbly and outgoing either.

Cresteds... contact Joey and Kathy.. since both know the breed well and several breeders. Some Cresteds I've met are afraid of their own shadow and seem to stay that way no matter how much you socialize. The breeder in PA with Mirick (Fairydreamer.. Copppage) really does seem to have dogs that have bubbly, wonderful temerperaments.

The hairless version of either breed is definately prone to more problems with teeth and skin. Personally, I would only consider the coated ones. Either way, they have the same skin oil and the allergy factor would not be different.

Lori

I am so happy all of you have responded. I will be passing all of this info on to my friends.

Lori I remember seeing some kind of hairless dog at one of the shows in Europe but had never heard of it before. I remember it being skittish and pretty unfriendly. Do you know what it may have been?

Charlotte

I have not have much experience with Xolos. The two being shown in Canada by people I know one is expremely friendly but his sister is scared and may bite. So that tells you how unpredictable the breed is. But the Chinese Crested have been bred here and shown for much longer. They can be scared of their own shadows & spooky but they tend not to bite and be agressive. My 1st bitch is more terrier like noisey & bossy until she gets to know you, then she loves you. Our new baby is rediculously friendly, our little fairy!!! One is hairless and on is a Puff. But I have met many hairless that are as friendly and out going as our Puuff Sonia. Jaime Coppage is from Maryland and she can direct your friend to a CC breeder if thats what they decide. I love the Crested, I can see myself breeding them when I am old and can no longer handle PH,....... at least 30 years from now:>
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Kathy Carella
Osiris Pharaoh Hounds
www.osiriskennels.com