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My new Red-Kneed comfortable now.

clffdvr Jan 07, 2008 09:20 AM

Hello All,

About six months back I made my entrance into inverts by buying a Red-Kneed. There was a lot of trouble at first with my ignorance - it's a lot different actually having one than reading up on them and thinking I knew how to handle her. She came to me small, and climbed the glass because the substrate was too wet. I didn't have a proper water dish for her. I had put too many crickets in there. I stressed because she didn't seem to eat. I asked you guys for help. I made the changes, gave her a dinner plate for a shallow lake. She dug her cave under the plate. She stayed under there 100% of the time, which convinced me she was dead. So I set up a schedule of lifting the plate when the heater dried it out. She was always healthy and cowering back. Finally I decided to let her do what she would, and hoped she would survive.

Well that method worked. After a couple of months I saw shed on the ground, let crickets loose in the cage, and sporadically kept water in the dish about 2/3 the time. Now she's' quite large and comes up when she's thirsty. It's like she's saying "What the heck, Roger, where's my water!!" She stands there while I pour it in, then jumps in the 1/4 inch deep water to drink. Sometimes she stays above ground 12 hours at a time. She positions herself in the middle of the warm zone emanating from a 100 watt CHE I have propped high against one end of her 20 gallon tank. The ambient temp of the tank is about 75F. I think she likes the warmth in the zone nearest the heater. I don't use under-tank heaters on her, probably because I'm mainly a lizard guy and believe heat should come from above. Plus I don't want to over-heat her cave.

Do you-all think an under-tank heating pad under half the tank is a better way to heat her?

Now I'm trying to gain insight into the practical care for Emperor Scorpions. If I let a water dish dry out, and re-fill it, they immediately jump right in. I have two in each tank. They like to hide under magnolia leaves. I think they ambush crickets there, because they are not dead from starvation. I have one odd thing to report. When I received them in the mail, I carefully opened the boxes and found the scorpions. For self protection I put on a glove I use for lizard bites. Well scorpion stingers pierce right through them. It was about one-third or one-fourth the pain of yellow-jacket stings. The sting wasn't too bad, except the pain lasted for five days. Oh the odd thing is that as fast as I could shovel them out, they each grabbed a cricket and carried it around. They needed no time at all to adjust to the new home before they could eat. Now it's a little more mysterious.

One thing I don't like is the way they reach up the glass trying to get out. It's single-pane glass, and water condenses like crazy on the inside. They reach up and smear peat moss all over the glass to about six inches up. Is this escape behavior a result of bad care? Is it possibly too humid in there? The substrate is damp. The heat is from heating pads under 1/2 the tanks. I have the tops covered with newspaper to slow water vapor escape, plus it eliminates cold breezes near the substrate.

Well I got to mow the hay now.

I wish health and prosperity to all of you this coming year!!

clffdvr

Replies (3)

TheVez2 Jan 07, 2008 01:22 PM

If you do decide to use heat mats, they should not be placed under the tank, they need to be on the back. Tarantulas instinctively burrow to escape heat, so they will burrow until they get to the source. I've heard of Ts being cooked this way.
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clffdvr Jan 08, 2008 11:53 AM

Oh no, what a bummer. You make perfect sense.

My T is heated by a ceramic heat emitter from above. But my Emperor Scorpions are heated from under their tanks. I put heat mats under half of the tank bottom. They do a lot of excavating, but I do not know if they are searching for a cool burrow. Maybe that is why they keep trying to climb the walls of the tanks. I think I got the advice to heat scorps from beneath half the tank by reading general scorp care info. I will switch their undertank heat to heat from above if necessary.

Roger

TheVez2 Jan 10, 2008 08:09 AM

I can't say if below the tank heating is good or bad for scorps, as I don't know enough about them. I just know it is not a good idea for Tarantulas.
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