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false black widow? or black widow?

adamsanity Aug 09, 2004 10:47 PM

Well i'll start by describing her as BLACK as BLACK can be except for the very small red diamondshaped markings on the back end of the top of the abdomen , on the underside there were two red triangles that didnt quite meet to make the hourglass.
As far as i could tell from looking at pictures of black widows the body was the same shape, and the size slightly larger than a quarter. I found her between the ground and a piece of old wood.
Now goegraphical information, I live in southern NJ and from what i have read black widows are from more southern parts of the united states but
i have always heard that they are common here too. sorry i can not show a picture i let her go about a week ago. One more thing. her silk was VERY strong which may point to a widow spider from what i read their silk is among the strongest in the spider world.

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Venom Aug 11, 2004 03:27 PM

Yes that is definitely a widow spider. However you should know that what usually referred to as "the black widow" is actually 3 different spiders in the widow FAMILY. There are many species of widows worldwide, not just here in the states, and even here we have 5 different types - the red widow, the brown widow ( an introduced species ), and the three "black widows". All are venomous, but there are differences between them. The northern widow ( Latrodectus variolus ), which is what you have, is due to it's temperament, a little less likely to bite a human defensively, and can tolerate a colder climate than the southern black widow ( Latrodectus mactans ). This webpage has a guide on how to distinguish among the three black widows.

http://kaston.transy.edu/widow.html

The image in the center, with the divided hourglass, is the widow you have. Here are some websites with info / pictures on the different types and distributions of widow spiders in the USA:

www.hobospider.org

http://www.doacs.state.fl.us/pi/enpp/ento/venomousspiders.htm

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