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Moth to identify...

pilonm Nov 07, 2007 11:26 AM

Hello,

Here is another moth photographied last July at the "Old Man in the Mountain", New Hampshire...

Is it possible to identify the family/genus/species?

Could it be a gemetridae?

Thank you very much for your help...

Michel

Replies (6)

lele Nov 09, 2007 01:01 PM

Hi Michel,

You take such nice photos! Since this is closer to my neck of the woods and even though the Geometridae baffle me -b/c there are SO many - I figured it was time I take a stab at them! I began with Covell's book and flipped thru the plates to find a Woody Angle (Semiothisa aequiferaria) but upon doing a search did not have too much luck. I then went to my trusted bugguide.net and narrowed it down to
FamilyGeometridae
Subfamily Ennominae
Tribe Semiothisini
Genus Macaria

M.aemulataria is a possibility and there is one that has not been id'd down to species that looks quite a bit like yours. You might want to take a look there and maybe upload to see about id'ing to species, it may help to get that other one id'd too as it was taken in Massachusetts.

keep me posted!

lele

here is a link to the M.aemulataria page and you can go from there
M.aemulataria

pilonm Nov 11, 2007 10:45 AM

Hello Lele,

Thank you very much for your help and appreciation! It is really apprecitated

I think you are right!!!

I was hesitating between M. aemulataris and M. ulsterata

But my specimen is too dark to be M. ulsterata...

One other photographer on BugGuide.net thinks also that it can be M. aemulataris... And this butterfly exists in NH!

So I think I can be enough sure to identify it as is...

Thank you again!

Michel

lele Nov 11, 2007 10:55 AM

Hi Michel,

Glad I could help and it was fun to try and identify a geo since they are so daunting! I love bugguide.net. I have watched that site grow from one man's humble beginnings many years ago to the superb site it is now. Such a wealth of knowledge, but keep posting here so I don't miss any of your lovely photos! Most of my Lep photos on bugguide are in the larval stage.

lele

pilonm Nov 11, 2007 11:16 AM

Hello Lele,

Usually I post here and on Bugguide.net (which is of course, a wonderful and so useful site!)...

To thank you for helping me take a look at the following links:

a) Link to my pictures of Virginia ctenucha I photographied last July (click on the thumbnail to see 6 pictures)

parcours.pilonm.org/insectes/arctiidae.htm

b) Link to my pictures of Big Poplar Sphinx I photographied last July also (click on the thumbnail to see 18 pictures)

parcours.pilonm.org/insectes/sphingidae.htm

Cheers

Michel

lele Nov 11, 2007 01:28 PM

My what stunning detail! What do you use for equipment?

I love the ctenuchid moth. I remember the first time I saw one and quickly id'd it. They are so unique and lovely.

The sphingids were the family that introduced me to rearing when I happened upon a tobacco hornworm (Manduca sexta) and wondered what it would turn into. Long story but I hand reared a crippled adult and of course lost some caterpillars to parasites and also had some successes. I then got into Saturnids, which I have been rearing for many years. The two are my passions.

Have you ever been to Bill Oehlke's Sphingidae site? It is of the US, but he has links to PEI, his Saturniidae site and more.

lele
Sphingidae of the United States

pilonm Nov 15, 2007 04:07 PM

Hello Lele,

Thank you very much for the link which I will keep with great interest...

My camera is a Panasonic FZ-20 and I'm using a Macro Lens Raynox DMC-50

www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicfz20/

Ciao!

Michel

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