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you keep them in an aquarium with a layer of dirt on the ground. How do you insure that each of the chams in the aquarium in eating enough, and how do you know that the bugs arent going under the soil, giving you the illusion they are in fact eating.

Jason
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Jason
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1.0 maroantsetra panther chameleon
0.2 dwarf panther chameleons
jsinger_jimt@hotmail.com

hi jason,

when I had my trio they cup fed...well Bart and Makeda did, Kaiya preferred to hunt so I let a few small crix loose and hoped for the best! She would bowl feed as well tho'. I always kept fresh food accessible to any loose crix. I also fed them D. heydei fruit flies. They stcuk around and the chams liked them! I put a pice of fruit on a wood skewer and stuck it in a plant pot so it was up at their level and near their favorite hangouts. Does this help?

lele

>>you keep them in an aquarium with a layer of dirt on the ground. How do you insure that each of the chams in the aquarium in eating enough, and how do you know that the bugs arent going under the soil, giving you the illusion they are in fact eating.
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>>Jason
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>>Jason
>>f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/dank7oo
>>1.0 maroantsetra panther chameleon
>>0.2 dwarf panther chameleons
>>jsinger_jimt@hotmail.com

ok .. lets say they refuse to cup feed
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Jason
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1.0 maroantsetra panther chameleon
0.2 dwarf panther chameleons
jsinger_jimt@hotmail.com

i am seriously considering buying 3.1 and that is my main concern .. i know an overadundance of bugs is no good either ...
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Jason
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1.0 maroantsetra panther chameleon
0.2 dwarf panther chameleons
jsinger_jimt@hotmail.com

Jason,

if they are young and you get them from a good breeder (Kammerflage?) they may already be accustomed to cup feeding. Unless they are older and/or WC, you probably won't have a problem getting them to use a cup. It's easy to set up. Put secure branches around and over the cup so they can easily shoot they will know that is the location they find food. Actually I had 3 cups in their enclosure so they thought they were hunting LOL! but they always seemed to go to the same one. I have some pix of my setup if you want me to email some to you. The FF were a big part of their diet.

I am not sure if John and Morgana cup feed or what success Kristen had and I am sure they will chime in soon.

Who are you getting them from? You have been on the forum long enough and went thru all the losses that Kristen and I suffered so I think you know that they are a bit tricky. I loved my little ones and if/when I get them again they would ONLY be cbb and probably from the Kammers. Again, hope I am helping

lele

>>i am seriously considering buying 3.1 and that is my main concern .. i know an overadundance of bugs is no good either ...
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>>Jason
>>f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/dank7oo
>>1.0 maroantsetra panther chameleon
>>0.2 dwarf panther chameleons
>>jsinger_jimt@hotmail.com

a friend of mine in ottawa has some brev eggs hatching, and more on the way from separte bloodlines - your info was most helpful lele

thanks a million

Jason
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Jason
f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/dank7oo
1.0 maroantsetra panther chameleon
0.2 dwarf panther chameleons
jsinger_jimt@hotmail.com

Are you saying you are thinking of buying 3 males and 1 female???
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1.1 pygmy leaf
1.0 carpet
1.0 jackson
0.0.3 red eared sliders

oops
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Jason
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1.0 maroantsetra panther chameleon
0.2 dwarf panther chameleons
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I just assumed he meant 3 f and 1 m - my thought was: lots of babies!

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>>Jason
>>f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/dank7oo
>>1.0 maroantsetra panther chameleon
>>0.2 dwarf panther chameleons
>>jsinger_jimt@hotmail.com

Gotcha...I thought that was probably what you meant. As long as you have enough room, a 1.3 would be good...it might be better to go with a 1:2 first unless you have upwards of a 20 gallon long to keep them in. Lele had a 30 gallon, I believe with her three in there.

By the way, I saw after the fact that you tried to get me through the msn messenger...sorry I was away, I guess. I came back and found it later.

Kristen
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1.1 pygmy leaf
1.0 carpet
1.0 jackson
0.0.3 red eared sliders

nothing is final yet, however, i dont think size is much of an issue ... i might keep a male mt. meru instead i am also considering a male ambanja ... i am buying prolly in december or janurary cant wait .. i need to choose first though - lol
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Jason
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1.0 maroantsetra panther chameleon
0.2 dwarf panther chameleons
jsinger_jimt@hotmail.com

Well, I used to sit there and stare...and I'd see them eat. Now, some of mine won't eat while I'm around, so I have to see if I see little tiny poops. Other than that, it's not that easy to make sure they're eating. I never had any luck with the cup feeding...mine wouldn't get close to it, and I was having escapees. I could try it again with the CB Pygmies that I have now...hmmm...

Kristen
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1.1 pygmy leaf
1.0 carpet
1.0 jackson
0.0.3 red eared sliders

Jason-

My pygmies are WC and they are bowl fed. I use a large oval shaped porcelain bowl that I place the feeders in. The bowl is imbedded down in the soil and there is a few highways (branches) going over the top of the bowl. There are a few pic of my setup on my site if you want to take a look. The occasional feeder will escape out of the bowl, but they will hunt them down. Best of luck!
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thats a really great idea john ... i would have never thought to emmbed the bowl into the soil .. i guess it makes it look more like the bugs are runninga round to the chams eh?

thanks a million

Jason
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Jason
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1.0 maroantsetra panther chameleon
0.2 dwarf panther chameleons
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I did the same. I buried to make the cup as flush with the top of the substrate as I could. It worked well. Check out John's photos. I think seeing someone else's set up is most helpful!

lele

>>thats a really great idea john ... i would have never thought to emmbed the bowl into the soil .. i guess it makes it look more like the bugs are runninga round to the chams eh?
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>>thanks a million
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>>Jason
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>>Jason
>>f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/dank7oo
>>1.0 maroantsetra panther chameleon
>>0.2 dwarf panther chameleons
>>jsinger_jimt@hotmail.com