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Looking for 2 purebred kittens: Advice?

Bahger Jun 22, 2007 03:41 PM

I'm so glad to have found this board; thanks in anticipation for your help.

We live in Los Angeles, we own one elderly Persian whose litter-mate and companion died earlier this year, and we are serious about acquiring two new purebred kittens.

A family conference has produced a shortlist of breeds but I'd be grateful for any advice members here may be prepared to share about the suitability of these breeds to our circumstances (also listed below). Finally, if we have overlooked any particular breed that strikes you as appropriate for us, I'd love to know, as we are not "locked in".

Circumstances:

- Indoor cats only.

- We have two children, eight and six years old who are gentle with pets, respectful and deserving of a relationship with cats that actually like interacting with children.

- Decent furniture not suitable for over-zealous kneading/scratching: Is this characteristic breed-associated in any way?

- We need to do what we can to ease the transition for our cherished old Persian and this consideration should influence our choice of a companion breed if it's relevant.

- Short hair preferred this time around.

- The house is decent-sized but not huge and therefore not ideal for a stir-crazy cat. However we don't want a feline throw-pillow either!

- Nocturnal howling is also unwelcome and we'd prefer to avoid breeds known for this trait.

The breed shortlist, so far:

Abyssinian
Egyptian Mau
Ocicat
Bengal
Burmese

We are dedicated cat-people and will provide a wonderful home and much social and tactile stimulation for the right pair of kittens. We love the exotic nature of purebred cats and we're inclining towards the more lithe, shorthaired breeds, having owned Persians in the past. However, we do have two children and do not want cats that tend towards excess nervousness around children, aggression or greater than usual aloofness. We'd love to find cats that are social, playful, affectionate and only use their claws and teeth as a last resort. And we welcome the larger breeds, too.

Thank you again for your hospitality and I look forward to some very well-informed responses!

Replies (11)

cyclopsgrl Jun 22, 2007 05:40 PM

It has been my eperience that Pursians are one of the more docile breeds. That said, just about any breed of kitten, purebred or mixed, will be very active for the first year or two.

Young kittens will likely be upsetting to your older cat, but hard to predict how long it will take for the older cat to adjust or just how upsetting it will be. When you integrate any new pet into a household, you have to do it slowly over time. Pretty much separate the new and old cats for a couple weeks, usually putting the new cat(s) in a room of their own for the two weeks with slow, gradual, supervised introductions. If you drop the new cat(s) in the middle of the living room on day one and "let them figure it out themselves" it usually doesn't go well. The resident cat gets VERY upset and will either be aggressive, or, hide out and potentially not eat, etc... So, very slowly over a couple weeks. You might be lucky and your resident cat embraces the new cat(s), but chances are greater it will be upsetting.

I am not familiar with all the breeds, but all cats have similar tendencies. Most will knead. Scratching is something you'll discourage from the start, so it won't be a problem with kittens and a little training.

From your list, I know Abys are very alert, active, inquisitive, climbers, etc... The rest of the list will likely be active kittens... I know folks with Bengals that live them and share stories of their antics.

Cats are more individual personalities rather than a guaranteed personality based on a certain breed. I currently have two cats from the same litter. One is fairly laid back and sharp as a tack, very smart... The other is hyper-active, dumb as a brick, and meows a lot. LOL. Similar to children in the same family from the same parents -- they can be night and day different in personalities.

I wish you luck. You might have luck calling breeders in your area and meeting parent cats and kittens of breeds you are interested in. You can also visit a shelter and get to know the personalities of the cats there, but you probably won't get a purebred (sometimes you can). Many of us have had wonderful luck with mixed breed cats...
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Tammy
Stanley and Pookey

cyclopsgrl Jun 22, 2007 05:45 PM

I just thought of something. We have "breed" boards on the main page. You can select the breeds you like and talk to the folks that have that breed.
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Tammy
Stanley and Pookey

kittyromeo Jun 22, 2007 06:10 PM

Hi! Welcome to the boards!

I'm from a long line of barn cat rescuers so I don't have much to share however - My brother took a walk on the wild side many years ago by going purebred. The Mau was striken off his short list of breeds because he kept hearing they are very prone to UTIs which of course lead to litterbox problems. (he eventually got two Manx)

The Bengal is a cat I drool over myself but I've heard you have to be at least three generations out before you breed out excessive feral tendencies. And they were so explosively popular over the last decade I'd question whatever breeder I was dealing with very carefully - you always want to buy from a breeder who does it for the love of the breed, not just to make a quick buck.

Head south on the main page and find the aby board - PHAbymom is a great resource (even for a lowly barn cat owner!)

Purrs,
Elizabeth

PS - scratching is all about territorialism - a long slow introduction while the cats figure out who is who will help - and give them lots of vertical space to express haughty one-up-manship amongst themselves without shredding the couch.

Bahger Jun 22, 2007 08:33 PM

This is a fantastic and helpful response, Elizabeth, thank you.

Damewjerseykits Jun 23, 2007 06:28 PM

>>The breed shortlist, so far:
>>
>>Abyssinian
>>Egyptian Mau
>>Ocicat
>>Bengal
>>Burmese
>>

HI,

Not trying to be the devil's advocate here, but...Why buying purebred when there are so many mixed breed cats (a lot of them with physicals characteristics that closely resemble pedigreed cats) in desperate need of homes? There are TONS of rescue organizations that actually HAVE purebred cats if you are still thinking about getting the physical characteristics. Two of my cats are what you would consider purebreds, but, they were adopted from a rescue organization.
By the way, all of the breeds on your list are actually considered VERY active cats that may end up upsetting your older resident kitty and causing other problems when not properly entertained, so that is something to keep in mind.
Petfinder.com is a good place to start looking for rescues. You can choose from their search engine according to breed, color, age, etc.
If you are fixed on buying pedigreed kittens, please make sure you get them from a reputable, not a backyard breeder. And give slightly older kittens and young adults a try!

Good luck in your search,

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Bob Daisy Emily


TerryB Jun 26, 2007 06:13 PM

Another breed you might consider is Tonkinese. Tonks have most of the characteristics you are looking for and are wonderful companions as well.

PHAbymom Jun 27, 2007 12:47 AM

You've received some great advice from the others already. You have picked what I like to call "in your face" cats. All very active and many very people oriented. As for the furniture.... all cats can be encouraged to use a stable scratcher... and tall cat tree/condos offer places to play and climb and for them to play king/queen of the mountain.

As for selecting a breed, this is really personal preference. I love my abys and adopted a young cat from a breed oriented rescue earlier this year. The rescue group couldn't understand why she'd been turned in to a shelter. I can tell you... she's an aby... without constant attention she's easily bored. She will nibble on me when she wants attention. Not bite...just an I'm here... pay attention to me nibble. You may solve this problem by adopting 2 as they will entertain one another and boredom is less likely. I've also had burmese....also wonderful cats and active... but also demanding of a lap or someone to throw a toy for a rousing (hours long) game of fetch.

Terry B's suggestion of a tonk is an excellent one as well. They were originally a cross of siamese and burmese. Not as cobby as a burmese, but not as extreme as a siamese. As one friend says, they are siamese on valium and burmese on speed. A very medium sized and tempermented cat with a lot of purrsonality.

My suggestion is to go meet the various breeds you have in mind. Cat shows are a good way to see many breeds at one time. Talk to the breeders and watch how the kittens and young cats behave in the benching cages. There are also many breed rescue groups who foster the kittens and cats in private homes. Some are with breeders, others with good-hearted volunteers. Visiting with some of these cats can often provide more personal interaction than at a cat show.

Here are a couple of links to articles on finding a good breeder. sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/06/26/petscol062607.DTL

Choosing A Breeder

Bahger Jun 27, 2007 12:56 AM

Thank you for the great info and advice, PHAbyMom.

Abys, Tonks and Burmese have all featured prominently in our quest but we may soon be the proud new owners of a pair of chocolate silver Ocicats from a reputable local breeder...

JaimeMarie Jun 29, 2007 06:56 PM

From what I have heard I would stay away from Bengals and Ocicats. They don't seem to have the personalities to fit into your house hold. They both are on the wilder side. I have a friend that owns them. I'll send her this link, so she can give you tell you more about the breed traits.
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Jaime owned by
Mya the dog
and the cats:Crash, Gabby and Tucker

JaimeMarie Jun 29, 2007 08:59 PM

I am posting my friend's message below. She owns bengals, and has owned persians.

Well, could you post for me... My opinion is that none of the breeds they have selected is appropriate company for an elderly, stick in the mud, berieved persian. Any of those breeds of kittens will stress the poor persian to death... and the "kittenhood" of bengals, in particular, appears never to end lol. I have 3 now. I would, in their situation, only add kittens to the household if they are of the following breeds-- Himalayan (pointed persian), Exotic Shorthair (shorthaired persian), or Ragdoll. It's just my opinion, but I feel what they are considering is a grave error, and they may pay for it, by losing their Persian to stress.
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Jaime owned by
Mya the dog
and the cats:Crash, Gabby and Tucker

Bahger Jun 30, 2007 01:57 AM

Nah, she'll be fine.