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Veterinary Service Challenges

petloverCO1982 Jun 28, 2007 03:05 PM

Has anyone else been dumbstruck by vet fees?

I have had friends, famliy members and even strangers tell me about sad stories involving the decision as to whether or not they should pay an astronomical vet bill to save their ailing or injured pet, or if they should just let Nature take it's course.
This conundrum seemd like a no brainer to me, until my family was faced with the impending death of an agressive cancer in a beloved four-legged member of our close knit clan.

The expenses of taking care of a human member of my family would never cross my mind in the decision making process.
If someone I love is hurt or sick, regardless of the expense, I would make sure that they got the medical care necessary, even if it meant rasing money through unorthodox methods.
Unfortunately, the same is not often enough true with pets.

I would love to hear feedback about anyone's experiences with the overwhelming costs of Veterinary care for pets.
I know that this may require Kleenex, but I am hopiing to find a solution through as much input as I can get.

Thank you,
Amy Smith

Replies (10)

cyclopsgrl Jul 05, 2007 08:09 AM

My two male cats are 16 next month. I haven't had any single staggering bill (I define staggering as over $1,000 at once) yet. However, both have had their share of Senior cat problems that have been treatable, with meds, diet changes, and vet care (and bills). I would say cumulatively over the past 4-5 years, I've spent at least $4,000. It has been an easy choice for me as it has been gradual over 5 years, no more than $1,000 total in a given year. A few hundred every few months is something I expected now that they are Seniors.

One of most expensive years was an amputation for my then 12 year old (Pookey) who got a cancerous tumor due to the rabies vaccination. Without the amputation, he would have died within a few months. The vet and Cornell Vet clinic consult (you can call a hotline for $35) both advised he was still young enough, would recover fully and quickly, and it would be almost a sure bet of 100% cure. The surgery and all cost $1,000ish with the biopsy, surgery, recovery, meds, etc... He's done exceptionally well the past 3 1/2 years. I have no regrets at all.

I have always used a sanity check when it came to vet care for them and so far, have always gone along with the vets (have had two excellent geriatric vets in the past 5-6 years). By sanity check, I mean, I weigh their age, risk, expected outcome, etc. Now that they are older, my measure is different. For instance, a few years ago, we thought one of my cats might be getting thyroid problems. He was 12 at the time (relatively young -- most indoor cats live to 16-18 years old). I was given three options if the tests came back postitive. Surgery (under $1,000), daily meds (cumulatively expensive, but cheapest overall), and a radioactive thyroid injection ($1,000). I would have gone with the $1,000 radioactive thyroid injection at the time as it was a 99.9% one shot, one cure rate. The catch is, he had to stay at the clinic out-of-town for a week. Back then I would have done it (his test results came back OK and didn't have to do it). Fast forward to now, when they are both 16, I doubt I'd go that route. A week from home would be very, very tough on him (he would probably stop eating), and, based on his age and current treatable conditions, I doubt he will be with me more than another year or two. I would go for the daily meds, most likely, which would work on him and would have the least impact on him.

Back to your original question. If I were faced with a serious illness right now (and expensive one), such as cancer, I would talk it over with my vet and seriously weigh my cats' age and most likley life-span (a couple more years) against what they would have to go thru for treatment (quality of life) and how much treatment would extend their life. In the case of my two boys, I will do what will make them most comfortable in their twilight years.

I acutally had to make a tough decision like this early last year. A year and a half ago, Stanley was dizzy. They told me brain tumor. Vet said operation and MRI would cost $3-4,000. But the vet advised against it due to his age and, in particular, the fact that problems come back within a year of surgery many times. We could treat him with steroids, but he probably wouldn't be with me much longer (4-6 months). Common sense, his age, and outcome prevailed on this one, more so than the cost. Putting him thru the surgery wouldn't buy him more time and the surgery would definately affect his quality of life as he recovered. I asked the vet if money were no concern, which way would she go and she advised me to go the steroid route and keep him comfortable. If she had advised surgery, I would have seriously considered it -- if it had a more positive and certain outcome (which it didn't). I also got online and talked to folks that had gone the surgery route and they really wished they hadn't. In the long run, not going the surgery route couldn't have worked out better, he has done very well for a year and a half now. Decreased the steroids to a very small dose and no problems. Far outliving what the vet thought his lifespan would be... (Steroids are less than $5 a month, by the way).

My thoughts are to weigh the age of the cat, the impact on quality of life and go from there. If it is intensive and will only buy a few months, why put the cat thru it? To me it is more of a common sense/judgement issue vs. money. When my cats were younger, I was willing to "put them thru more" as they recovered much faster and had a longer life expectency. Quality over quantity of life. I have been lucky with excellent vets and strongly believe for the vets it isn't about money. It is about the best care for the cat depending on the cat's situation.

You are facing tough decisions. I hope you have a good vet to talk this thru with and they are giving you the pros and cons and outcomes of going either way. I recommend taking money off the table and asking is the treatment going to give a longer quality of life to the cat (if the cat is young), or is it just going to delay the outcome for a short while and be a very tough time on the cat to go thru the treatments...
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Tammy
Stanley and Pookey

cyclopsgrl Jul 05, 2007 08:23 AM

I want to clarify something -- if, after talking with the vet and weighing all options, I decided to "let nature take its course", as you say, I wouldn't bring the cat home for good and wait. I would still work with the vet on pain meds, etc., that will make the cat more comfortable as the cancer took hold. You mention "impending death...aggressive cancer..." Without knowing more, those words imply that treatement would only buy a little time if the cancer is that advanced... By nature taking its course, in addition to pain meds, I would also take the cat to the vet when it was time to say goodbye when the pain impacted quality of life, vs. letting the cat die of pain at home naturally. Pain meds and a compassionate final decision are two relatively inexpensive things you can do... And from your post I can tell you would probably do this...
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Tammy
Stanley and Pookey

petloverCO1982 Jul 05, 2007 01:27 PM

Thank you for your input!

I have successfully found one veterinarian who is willing to implement a payment plan for their customers to make services more affordable and accessible to those with lower incomes.

The input and feedback from this forum has been a burning coal in my shoe to sway vets to help out their customers.

Thanks again!

PetloverCO1982

PHTessie Jul 05, 2007 06:51 PM

Well said Tammy, thank you...I have to agree, I guess thats why many humans have living wills...yes vet care is expensive, and they can do so much more today, but common sense must prevail. To me, its a matter of asking myself, would I want this done to me just because they can, will it really extend life and quality of life, hard choices...sighhhhhhhhhh, or am i doing it because I dont want to let go...
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PHTessie

Rescuekitty1979 Jul 09, 2007 06:19 AM

Hi

I haven't read any of the responses yet but I find I don't ever have to think about cost of vet bills as I have both of my cats insured and only ever have to cover the cost of £60 excess so it doesn't ever have to affect my ecision as to whether it's worth it or if I can afford it.

I have had several occasions where thankfully hundreds of pound vet bills have been dealt with even without me having to pay and claim back.

Much better
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Kind Regards
Pepsi and Cola's human Janis
MAX - Earned his wings April 2006 - Sleep tight Pussy Cat

"Like those great sphinxes lounging through eternity in noble attitudes upon the desert sand, they gaze in curiosity at nothing, calm and wise"
Charles Baudelaire

petloverCO1982 Jul 11, 2007 07:51 PM

Thanks for the input!

I have been discovering in my travels (o;
that pet insurance does not cover every conceiveable illness, disease or affliction.

I have begun working with Veterinarians in my area of Colorado Springs to set up payment plans for their customers.

The vet offive personnel love it!
Their clients love the fact that if they meet a few basic requirements, that they can be set up on a plan to have their bill paid of rather quickly.
Everybody wins!

From the information that I have gleaned from this forum I have been able to assess the necessity of a service like this.

Pounds?
Where you from?

Rescuekitty1979 Jul 12, 2007 06:12 AM

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>>Pounds?
>>Where you from?

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Hey

I'm from North East of England...and I never remember the conversion to dollars
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Kind Regards
Pepsi and Cola's human Janis
MAX - Earned his wings April 2006 - Sleep tight Pussy Cat

"Like those great sphinxes lounging through eternity in noble attitudes upon the desert sand, they gaze in curiosity at nothing, calm and wise"
Charles Baudelaire

petloverCO1982 Jul 12, 2007 08:03 PM

Wow!

I have never ever talked to someone from "accross the pond" via the internet!

Veery cool!

I am female, tall, athletic when my 5 month old lets me be (o:
and I am an owner of a Tabby-Siamese mix. Her name is Z and she is 8 weeks old as of yesterday. Awesome little thing, she sleeps with my son!

You?

If you do not feel comfortable responding that is ok.

Rescuekitty1979 Jul 13, 2007 06:31 AM

>>I am female, tall, athletic when my 5 month old lets me be (o:
>>and I am an owner of a Tabby-Siamese mix. Her name is Z and she is 8 weeks old as of yesterday. Awesome little thing, she sleeps with my son!
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>>You?
>>
>>If you do not feel comfortable responding that is ok.

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Well hello from across the pond

I am also female, 27 year old from the North east coast over here....it's always cold ha ha I am 'owned by' Pepsi a 3 year old rescue (slightly insane, mentally unstable, has OCD and various skin allergies) and my new boy Cola who is a very handsome tuxie boy who's 9 months old now and huge !!

I love talking to folks from the USA so yeah any time drop me a line. Where in the USA are ya from ? I spent some time in San Jose Cali and have visited Orlando, New Orleans, San Fran...love that country

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Kind Regards
Pepsi and Cola's human Janis
MAX - Earned his wings April 2006 - Sleep tight Pussy Cat

"Like those great sphinxes lounging through eternity in noble attitudes upon the desert sand, they gaze in curiosity at nothing, calm and wise"
Charles Baudelaire

hartrr Sep 15, 2007 09:53 AM

THe solution to medical expenses is several fold. We are what we eat. Does anyone really think that commercial pet food is healthy? It's like eating every meal at fast food restaurants.

I just posted an article "Why Natural Healing is the Right choice for Your Pets". It only gives an over view. Basically owning a pet is a HUGE responsibility. Educate yourself before owning a pet and you will have a much better chance of owning a healthy, happy pet!
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