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What should i do first, tame it or get it to eat?

cito Oct 13, 2003 04:27 PM

My newly caught 4.5 foot black racer is vicious. I tried two times since i caught him to pick him up, and after about 5 second of holding, he thrashes about violently and rattles his tail and strikes. If i continue to do this, im afraid he wont eat form the stress. So should i continue to try and tame him, or should i just try to get him started on thawed mice before handling him again?

Replies (4)

buddygrout Oct 13, 2003 07:29 PM

Black racers generally don't make very good pets for holding.
If you want to keep it I would not hold it much except to clean the cage. I would say get any snake eating before you handle it a lot. Buddy.

oldherper Oct 14, 2003 08:36 AM

Unless you have experience keeping Coluber and related snakes, your best bet is to release him where you found him. Wild- caught racers stress easily from capture and from captivity and are often very difficult to acclimate.

If you are intent on keeping him anyway, then you should concentrate on getting him feeding for you first. These are very active snakes and will require a large enclosure with plenty of hiding options and a place to bask. They will eat a lot of different things, but probably won't eat at all if they aren't comfortable with the surroundings. You will need to leave him alone entirely except for cleaning his cage. He will most likely refuse dead food at first. I would offer live crawler or hopper mice to begin with. Once he starts to feed on them and will take two at a meal, then offer one live one and one frozen/thawed. Once he starts to take the frozen/thawed one as well as the live one, then you can get him off live ones.

If you try to tame him before you get him feeding, he will starve to death. It will be a long time before he tames to any appreciable degree if he ever does. The most likely thing is that he will start gnawing on you the minute you pick him up and stop when you put him down.

Most of the snakes in the genus Coluber are that way. Probably the meanest snake I ever owned in my life, and that includes some pretty ferocious elapids, viperids and crotalids, was a 4 foot Coluber hippocrepis. That snake was pure evil and never tamed one little bit the whole time I had him. He was a voracious feeder, but was literally "mean as a snake". I've kept a few North American Coluber also, and have never really seen a "tame" one that I can recall.

One other problem with wild-caught Coluber is that they tend to carry a pretty good load of parasites. The stress from capture and captivity can cause an immune system depression which allows this load to become overwhelming and they will often die from this within a couple of months of capture. If the snake does not begin feeding within about a month of capture, I would definitely recommend releasing it where you found it.

rearfang Oct 14, 2003 10:44 AM

Hippocrepis do have additude...Which is why my female gained the rare (for me) privilige of a name "DIVA". The good news is after the first bite she is handleable...Which may mean she is very good natured (for a racer).
Frank

iturnrocks Oct 15, 2003 03:21 AM

One helpful note discovered from keeping Coluber constrictor. I used to have a problem with snakes not wanting to eat. This was solved by adding a "tree"- basically a branch the snake could get up in. They liked to reach down from the tree and grab mice that way. Something you can try if yours is slow to eat.
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