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I am still having relentless uirnation/spraying issues

AstiLover Jun 28, 2005 09:31 AM

My Bengal continues to spray AND urinate, now more than ever. I have 2 Feliway plug ins going (for over 8 months now), Feliway spray daily and I've tried Bach's REscue Rememdy, Territorial Rescue, Holly and Vine, ALL TO NO AVAIL!

I've spent most of the last three days (when not working F-T) scrubbing the floors and walls after getting a balck light and seeing ALL the marks. I've even washied the rugs twice, first soaking them in Petastic. My cat continues to spray and urinate on the walls and rugs and just about anything upright. He's been on Amyitriptol as well! I'm at my wits end! It is a multi-cat household and the Bengal was brought up here at 8 weeks old with two other (older) cats so he is familiar with a multi-cat situation. I now have only one of the older original cats, introduced a kitten 1.5 yrs ago and an 11 month old female two weeks ago (after the usual introduction methods).
Has anyone heard of something called Calmicort oral? It was mentioned to me but I can't locate it online as a calming medication. Since the intro of the female, it's gotten worse, but never got better before that, despite my efforts.
Can anyone help me?

Replies (15)

phtessie Jun 29, 2005 08:34 AM

Hi, Im afraid I've never heard of calmacort..I'm assuming the cat has been neutered and vet checked for any health problems. Howver, with such a long standing problem, sometimes its just the cats nature. Have you tried the Holistic Vet Board? Perhaps you could find some more suggestions there.
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PHTessie

AstiLover Jun 29, 2005 09:00 AM

Yes, he is neutered, age 7 and has been to the vet three times, all is OK medically. He just started this last year and I'm at my mits end! I've been scrubbing walls and treating with petastic every day and I am worn out! He's such a good kitty and I love him very much, I just don't know what to do to relieve his anxiety and give myself a break!

I'll post on the Holistic Vet forum...Thanks!

Tilda Jun 30, 2005 04:32 AM

Sorry to hear that!

I also have no idea what to tell you except that he seems to be not very comfortable in a multi-cat household (although he's used to it, but obviously has a very strong need to mark).

Try this site as well, they are excellent

http://www.cathelp-online.com/forums/index.php

What tests have you run with your vet? Urinalysis? Maybe other tests should be done as well.

AstiLover Jun 30, 2005 07:15 AM

THanks for tyring to help.
I've had him to the vet's three times for various tests, the vet assures me it is behavioral.

I ended up cleaning another place last night, but at least it was only ONE! I finally decided that I couldn't get the smaell out of that rug so I threw it away and am leaving that floor space bare. I'll jsut keep checking w/the black light to see if he continues to remark that spot. He seems to be alternating between spraying and urinating on previously marked rugs. I'm also using foil in place of the rugs as a deterrant, however, I am hoping he does not pick a new spot to mark.

I have no intention of getting rid of him and I never, ever scold him. I give him lots of extra attention. I guess all I can do is clean up what he does and try to remove stressors. If it means having him on drugs, then I guess that's what I have to do. Guess it's me that has to adapt!
Colleen
Yoko Gari, Chopper Boogotti, Claude (Meiuxy) LeMeiux and Honeybunny Boo

gonzilly Jun 30, 2005 09:27 AM

I was having the same problem with one of my boys. It worked with me when I started smothering him with attention. He has stopped all marking.

One way to tell if it is behavioral or physical with a male is if he is squatting to go (physical), or lifting his tail and arching his back to go along walls and doors.

I really hope your baby mellows out. I know how much of a pain the cleaning can be. There are some cat owners on the meow chat "What's Mew Meeting Hall" board that medicate their cats for it. Maybe go over there and ask or go to meow chat to ask. Since it is a place where cats talk, you might want your cat to post there and ask for help.

Good luck!

AstiLover Jun 30, 2005 10:27 AM

Thanks for replying. I am trying to give him all my attention first and I feed him first, give him treats first. The problem is he's been doing this sporadically for a year and he's been vet checked 3 times, he OK on that front.

However, perhaps you can help me out. What is the difference between physical (squating) and the spraying? He has done both!
I'm not sure what the meaning of the squating. It's not his litterbox, he uses it consistently and I haven't changed litter or the location.

You help is appreciated. THanks!

Colleen

gonzokat Jun 30, 2005 11:46 AM

I was reading articles when WoooLee first started spraying and the articles said that if they are spraying it is behavioral, if they are squating then it is a medical issue that has to be dealt with. WoooLee only sprays against walls, doors, and windows never on the carpet. Maybe let your vet know that he is doing both ways and ask if that is normal. Or do an internet search on it as well.

I am so sorry about your kitty. Hopefully the problem will clear up soon.

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Gonzo, Willy, Stumpy and Sasquatch

gonzokat Jun 30, 2005 11:48 AM

sorry, I don't know how that picture got in there. It isn't even WoooLee

julie
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Gonzo, Willy, Stumpy and Sasquatch

phtessie Jun 30, 2005 07:26 PM

So sorry your having such a problem. But it sounds like your a great cat mom! Wish I could think of something else for you to try...
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PHTessie

AstiLover Jul 01, 2005 07:42 AM

Well, I know it's not a fault, it's his natural instinct so I will just keep trying. I started him on the medication again and haven't had any "accidents" for 36 hours, so we'll see. I know he's upset because I introduced a new female into the current group (the rest are neutured males). I know that four is pushing the buttons for the number of cats, but no one even considered adopting the female since she was put up on our rescue website in January. She is disabled, but such an angel (with sass and spit!) I fell in love with her back then and have been waiting through many ups and downs on her survival after she was run over and found her way to our rescue. So, I will do what I can to make it work for all of the cats. She deserved a good life. So the male Bengal and I will just have to work it out! THanks!

phtessie Jul 04, 2005 09:33 AM

Oh how wonderful of you to adopt a kit with "disabilities"! It's not something many people are willing to take on. And that could be a lot of the spraying problem..maybe he will settle down once he realizes she isn't leaving. How is she doing?
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PHTessie

AstiLover Jul 05, 2005 09:07 AM

Well, it is getting better,the spraying. But one of the four has a urinary tract infection and I'm having trouble figuring out who since I work all day and the vet is only open during the day and says I have to get a urine sample in within three hours...so I'm trying to figure it out. Anyway, I put the spraying cat on Amytriptinol at 1/2 the dosage and he is not so zoned out, but also not spraying. It's going as well as I can expect. Thanks! The disable kitty makes up for it in her attitude. She's only 6 lbs (full-grown) and has all the males (3) intimidated! Kinda funny, she's swats at them if they get too close, even though they are all almost twice her size! She is a total diva.

Tilda Jul 06, 2005 05:47 AM

Glad to hear something finally works!

About the UTI - how do you know one has it? - just wondering.

I found a good way of getting a clean urine sample is to sit behind the cat when it starts peeing, lift its tail and simply hold the jar under the stream of urine. Not all cats will allow that though, ours do, thank God! This way it's really easy to get urine that isn't contaminated in any way.

Just thought I throw that in here ...

Anyway, good luck with your little family and the new 'diva'!

phtessie Jul 07, 2005 09:32 AM

Oh great! So glad its working. How to get a urine sample to the vet, I have no idea. Perhaps you could do it on a day off. You may have to take them to the vet and let him/her do it..
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PHTessie

JaimeMarie Jul 07, 2005 07:02 PM

Oh Colleen,
I'm sorry your still having trouble with your bengal. This has been going on a long time. You are a great cat mom to put up with it for over a year. One of our other members had a spraying war going on at her house. Her name is Ruby (gocatsgo). She found a cat diaper online to use with her cat. It worked no more spraying. maybe you could try that if the meds stop working.

Good luck. and lots of glows to you.
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Jaime owned by
Mya the dog
and the cats:Crash, Moxie, Gabby and sometimes Tucker

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