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Uh, This Is Normal... Right?

foxfire May 19, 2003 05:28 AM

Background: Tarrie is a 6-month-old rescued-from-the-pound kitty. Although I suspect she is mostly moggy, she has the markings and build (from face to eyes to tail) of an Egyptian Mau. She is an indoor kitty and has a two-storey house to herself during the day, as well as copious amounts of toys.

Strange Behaviour 1: I can't use a spray bottle to deter her from being naughty, as she loves water and gets in the shower as soon as I open the door to get out. What other deterrents are there in this situation?

Strange Behaviour 2: She loses the plot most nights of the week and runs the full length of the house, talking the whole time. She runs from the blinds to the walls, crashes into both and then tries to climb the wall. She throws herself at the dividing wall between two rooms in the house and tries to haul herself up. The only problem is that there is nothing to haul up onto - the wall goes to the ceiling!

Strange Behaviour 3: She ignores her lovely - practically unused - scratching post, preferring instead to claw the carpet. To sound paranoid, it's like she does it and knows she shouldn't... Because if I yell and move towards her, she does the cute little innocent "What?" face. This face expression applies to everything she does that's naughty.

Strange Behaviour 4: Regardless of whether I have been lavishing her with attention or not, she gets the urge to use me as her chew toy. It starts off with what seems like her playing, as she is purring. I get concerned when she stops purring though, as she tends to get vicious. I have never encouraged her to be vicious or biting towards people, and she usually only does it to her mouse-toys.

So, is my cat weird? Or just being a kitten? Or a bit of both? Hope you can offer some insight, especially on #2 as I get rather concerned about that one.

Thanks!

Replies (10)

Martisimo May 19, 2003 08:59 AM

I'm going to just toss a few things out. I'm sure others will have more advice too. First, one very important detail -- I'm thinking this is an only cat, right? She sounds pretty bored...added to that, she has the usual high-energy drive of a kitten her age.

"Strange Behaviour 1: I can't use a spray bottle to deter her from being naughty, as she loves water and gets in the shower as soon as I open the door to get out. What other deterrents are there in this situation? "

A can with a lid, such as a coffee can, with coins inside. Shake..the noise should startle her. Also, the canned air that people use to clean computer keyboards makes a nice, firm hissing noise that will also often startle.

"Strange Behaviour 2: She loses the plot most nights of the week and runs the full length of the house, talking the whole time. She runs from the blinds to the walls, crashes into both and then tries to climb the wall. "

I'm not entirely sure about the wall-climbing thing, but it could be chalked up to pent up ENERGY. Like I said, she sounds bored. Ideally, another kitten of a similar age would do wonders for this...and possibly even for the nipping you mention below. People NEVER believe it, but anyone who knows cats can tell you two kittens really ARE easier than one. If not, you need to do some major playing with her during the day. Kittens have an extraordinary amount of energy. I'd suggest things to chase, that DON'T involve her being near your hands -- my cats love to chase a laser pointer.

"Strange Behaviour 3: She ignores her lovely - practically unused - scratching post, preferring instead to claw the carpet. To sound paranoid, it's like she does it and knows she shouldn't... Because if I yell and move towards her, she does the cute little innocent "What?" face. This face expression applies to everything she does that's naughty. "

Well, she's only doing what to her feels natural -- it's instinct, so she probably really is thinking, "What's the big deal?". I would try a variety of scratching posts (note the plural...she really needs more than one). Some cats prefer hard, nubby carpet, some prefer wood, some prefer sisal rope. Most DON'T like the plush carpet that's on the posts you buy at the stores, and don't like door hangers or cat condos for regular scratching. Personally, I build my own. You can use her play drive to your advantage here -- make her posts the most fun place she can think of to be! Get or build ones tall enought to climb -- have her chase the laser pointer up them, put treats at the top, etc. Also, wherever she's been using now has her scent on it -- you must cover or block these areas or she WILL return to her scent to scratch.

"Strange Behaviour 4: Regardless of whether I have been lavishing her with attention or not, she gets the urge to use me as her chew toy. It starts off with what seems like her playing, as she is purring. I get concerned when she stops purring though, as she tends to get vicious. "

This is not uncommon. During these petting sessions, now that you are aware of her habit, ALWAYS stop the petting and get up and walk away BEFORE she gets to that point. Always leave her purring. If she does take a nip before you've left simply say "No!" firmly, remove her from your lap, get up walk away. Some cats tend to do this just because they get so worked up from getting petted, her's is probably also due to the amount of energy and play she has. You, and everyone in the house, needs to be consistent with this - don't *let* her get to the nipping point.

phmadamealto May 19, 2003 08:41 PM

There is not a whole lot I can add to the excellent answer Martissimo just gave you. Your cat sounds completely normal! Kittens are rambunctions little critters!

Your kitten may perfer a horizontal rather than vertical surface. See if you can find one of those cardboard scratching pads and offer it to her. She may or may not use it. The carpet where she has scratched can also be covered with aluminum foil for a while until she is trained to a post or other more preferable scratching surface.

Using a featured kitty tease has been recommended as a means of lowering aggressiveness in kitties. It might be a help with the biting. Many cats do bite when they've had "enough" petting. You are right to stop as soon as she stops purring. Also watch her ears. When they turn backward that is another sign your petting session has been declared over.

Good luck and enjoy your new baby. Before long she will be a sleepy mellow kitty and you'll wonder where that kitten went.
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Smile, it will make them wonder what you are up to!

shortstff467 May 19, 2003 10:20 PM

Looks like they pretty well covered it but yup shes normal
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Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Shorty

PHAbymom May 20, 2003 12:53 AM

>>Your kitten may perfer a horizontal rather than vertical surface. See if you can find one of those cardboard scratching pads and offer it to her. She may or may not use it. The carpet where she has scratched can also be covered with aluminum foil for a while until she is trained to a post or other more preferable scratching surface.

I have one who prefers the horizontal surfaces. I took an inexpensive shelving board and covered it with carpet scrap. It's Sadie's favorite place to scratch.

Also, to add to what the others have offered, play with your kitten. Interactive toys such as the kitty teases or pole toys, the laser pointer, even paper wads to bat at and fetch will give her a way to use her abundance of energy. Ping pong balls in a bathtub are a built in soccer stadium (but take them out before bedtime).

Good luck and enjoy your kitten!
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cyclopsgrl May 21, 2003 06:27 PM

The next time she bites you, blow on her face or meow at her. Try different types/pitches of meows and see if they work. Louder meows rather than softer meows. Pull your hand away as you do it. I heard about meowing to stop biting and have tried it from time to time. Stanley is a gentle nipper, not a biter, he gives love bites, but I tried the trick to see what happened. He immediately stopped nipping. It stops him dead most times. Might work...
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PHMadameAlto May 21, 2003 07:58 PM

This reminds me of another way I read to stop biting. Say "ouch" in a very loud high-pitched voice. This mimics the cry kittens make when they've been fighting and had enough. Most cats understand this and will back off. It seems to work with my cat.
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Smile, it will make them wonder what you are up to!

Martisimo May 22, 2003 08:00 AM

My old boss told people to do this with kittens and puppies. It's like reacting as a playmate would when your kitty is getting to rough.

foxfire May 23, 2003 07:49 PM

thanks for your advice everyone, there's heaps of methods for me to try now!

cheers!

ThreeCalicos May 24, 2003 09:05 PM

Can't add much to the great advice you've been given but just in case you read again.......I've had great luck with just scattering three or four carpet samples (about 12 x 18" around for the cats to use as scratching pads. This is also where I give them catnip so they love that. They also have a tall cat hotel with both carpet and sisal on the posts. They seem to prefer the carpet. Friends have great luck with those cardboard horizontal scratch pads, too. My cats respond to tone of voice better than water or other noises but sometimes I use clapping hands if I want to really startle them. I heartily agree with the advice to get a second kitten. Not only will it give this kitten a playmate to use up energy but will keep her from getting so lonely when you are gone and will also give another cat a good home. I'd get one pretty quickly while they're still young, though, and introduce it slowly over a period of days. Congratulations on becoming a cat's human and thanks for giving a home to deserving kits! Katc

Papillon567 Aug 02, 2003 12:08 AM

About Strange Behaviour 1: Some cats just love water. It's not a strange behaviour at all.

About Strange Behaviour 2: My cat also runs full lengh of the house at night. She doesn't do any of the other things included in Stranges Behaviour 2, but it really could just be hyper-activity.

About Strange Behaviour 3: My cat igores scraching posts too. However, she doesn't use our carpet--just our fire wood. You said, "To sound paranoid, it's like she does it and knows she shouldn't... Because if I yell and move towards her, she does the cute little innocent 'What?' face. This face expression applies to everything she does that's naughty." That's how my cat is. She has this cute little "what?" face when caught doing something wrong.

About Strange Behaviour 4: (no comment)