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hi my name is krystle and i just adopted 2 persian cats 2 weeks ago there age is 1year and a half,the problem is they are not eathing there dry food as they were to other owner,i tought that is cause they change house but now i discovered they have a mouth infection they only eat a little moist food,as i work in health centre i got some advice about the problem and i am giving them antibaotics its amoccillin tablets half of 375 mg do you think im diong wrong as i cant efford at the moment to go to the vet pls help me

Krystle, I'm sorry to hear that you are unable to get needed veterinary care for your cats. Somehow you are going to have to. You adopted them two weeks ago, didn't you realize they would need vet care? You may need to return them so they can get the help they need.

It is irresponsible to give an antibiotic without a diagnosis. Cats, for example, get a disease called stomatitis that affects their mouths, and antibiotics will do nothing to help this. If there is periodontal disease or an abcess or broken teeth or a number of other possible problems, antibiotics will do nothing.

Most frighteningly, cats who don't eat get a disease called hepatic lipidosis, which is often fatal, and if it isn't, is treated with several days hospitalization and is VERY expensive.

Please do the right thing and beg, borrow, or steal to get these kits to the vet right away. They deserve to have a veterinarian examine them and determine what the problem is.
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Christie Keith
Caber Feidh Scottish Deerhounds
Holistic Husbandry since 1986
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hi thnks for your concern ,i didnt say im not giong to take the cats to the vet i said at this moment but if in 3 days time nothing happens with the pills i will sure take them and antibaotics arent giong to do any harm so i dont want you to think im just giong to live them like this thnks krystle

I think you should stop giving the cats antibiotics right away. There are many reasons why you should not give antibiotics indiscriminately - you may have the wrong dosage for the cats, the cats may be allergic to the drug, or there may be other side effects you don't know about.

Please stop the meds and get the cats to a vet right now.
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Smile, it will make them wonder what you are up to!

Stop the medication immediately. Not only do you not know what illness you are treating, you also do not know the proper dosage for any medication they might need. This is a job that only a vet can take on. These cats are in serious need of medical attention immediately. You are not trained or qualified to practice medicine on them, hoping that whatever you dole out will fix the problem.

You state you have had them for 2 weeks, three more days will make it nearly 3 weeks. Within 2-3 days of a cat not eating, irreverible damage can be done to the kidneys and liver. Often times this is a terminal situation, at a minimum it is an expensive one. Extreme supportive care is often needed once damage is done, this includes IV fluids, force or tube feeding, and more. Sometimes this is needed for the rest of the cats life. If you are not prepared to get stop medication and seek treatment immediately, please return them to their former owner. I can assure you they would rather have them back than have them suffer uneccesarily.

Also please know that having a pet is a gigantic responsibility and can be very costly. Emergencies happen no matter what sort of care is given, and to have an illness cost you large amounts of money is not unusual. This past year I spent over $2000 dollars on a single cat in a months time, seeking the emergency care that he needed. Despite the money spent, he did not survive the ordeal. Having a pet means being committed to providing any and ALL needed care, and being financially able to meet their needs at any given time.

>>hi thnks for your concern ,i didnt say im not giong to take the cats to the vet i said at this moment but if in 3 days time nothing happens with the pills i will sure take them and antibaotics arent giong to do any harm so i dont want you to think im just giong to live them like this thnks krystle
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Mia Liger Fluffy Banzai Smudge Hazy
& Midas ~ Golden Retriever and honorary cat

Krystle, I don't mean to be a witch here, believe me, and if I come across that way I apologize. However, unless you have taken your precious babies (at least I hope they are to you) into an animal doctor (veterinarian) you are simply playing Russian Roulette with their lives. Medicating cats is a very risky business. Cats can NOT take the same meds that humans or even dogs can. Many vets will work with you on payments and they know what medicines will and will not work on cats. If it is a virus then you are just giving them medicines that will not do any good. ONLY a veterinarian can diagnose what is wrong with your furkids. It is imperative that a vet see your babies right now.

I'm only being this testy because we lost a much loved cat last year to stomatitis. This is a disease that starts in the mouth (teeth). She was such a solitary cat that we didn't catch the problem until it was too late. Please, please get your babies into the vet NOW. Don't wait, and please don't take a non-veterinarians advice. You wouldn't put the life of a human child in the care of a "horse-doctor" would you?
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Topaz an Da Idyho Clan
Vester, Mystry, Trey, Gidget, Tuff. Rusti, Michael, Carmen, KC, Badger, Panda, MamaCat, Tasha, Chip, Sierra and Tribble

hi thnks for your concern but for your information i work in a health clinic and i phoned a vet to c if im giving the medicines ok i only gav them a small dose and for your information your vet will give you same pills but in small dose as for your concern also my cats are fine eathing and no infection after the dose i gave them so you see i didnt kill them and i dont intend to do cause i love them and thnks for being harshe bye.

"its amoccillin tablets half of 375 mg"

If you mean that you're giving AMOXICILLAN at that dosage, then YES you are giving them too much. That might equate to a medium to large dog dosage. Otherwise, I've not heard of the drug you mentioned.

Please believe that we are not trying to be harsh, that we only want what's best for those two kitties. Many people don't realize the situation you're describing and then medicating cats on your own, without vet supervision, is very serious. Other than the fact that you don't know the correct dose and that alone can be dangerous, cats can't take many of the medications that people do - in some cases the medications are toxic enough to them to cause death.

hi thnks for your concern but the persian are ok and yes i gave them amoccillin half cause i asked the vet and told me its ok for your information cause i work in a health clinic most of the medicine that give the animals are suitable for animals too but in small dose,and if you thnik that the vet give you something else you r wrong my cats ate ok and eathing well with the medicine you dont have to be harshe for some information bye.

Hey, I'm glad your cats are doing okay. Like I mentioned, I'm not being harsh, I was telling you that I've seen VERY serious complications arise from people who give cats medicine without even knowing if it's okay for cats to have that medicine. Everyone here was only trying to convey the potential seriousness of your situation, it's your choice to think anyone is being harsh.

Until four months ago I worked in a veterinarian's office and I can tell you with absolute certainty that the dose you mentioned you were giving your cats, if the drug was indeed amoxicillan, was more than a cat dose. No, a couple of doses at that strength won't kill a cat, but given over the usual time frame that antibiotics are given, it can make a cat quite sick. I can also tell you that there are many, many medicines that people take, that even dogs can take, that are toxic to cats. So toxic that if you administer them it's pretty certain the cat will die as a direct result. I've seen it more than once.

But again, my real concern was that your cats had not even been diagnosed with anything, so you didn't even know what was actually wrong with them. Even a health clinic worker is not a veterinarian, and believe me, even with all the things I've seen in cats over the years, I would not even begin to try to diagnose my cats when they are sick. There are so many things that I haven't even heard of or wouldn't know to look for. Especially in purebreds. That's what vets attend school for years to learn.

I am sorry to hear that you considered our words of caring and concern as harsh. Many of us have experienced severe heartache over pets, and care only for their health and wellbeing. Please think about this, whatever vet you spoke to needs to be reconsidered. If he is comfortable giving you information that treating a cat with any medication is ok without having at least seen the animal to determine the cause, that is not a vet you need to be seeing. What if it was something serious?? Kidney failure can occur from cats not eating, and he would have never known it had happened, as he didn't examine them. Likely you would have been completely blindsided by it, thinking you were doing the right thing (with a vets ok nonetheless). Almost all of us here consider our pets to be children (even if they are a bit furry). Personally, if I was sick I wouldn't be comfortable taking a dose of whatever I had on hand for the kitties, and if I did take it, I sure wouldn't expect it to work without the aid of a physician overseeing the treatment. Also, you say you work for a medical facility. The medication you gave is a prescription drug, requiring a prescription to be dispensed. How did you obtain the drug without a prescription from the doctor?? I would personally look into that if it were me, and make sure that the policy dictates that meds not be dispensed to employees without a prescription, god forbid someone get the wrong medication or wrong dosage and end up with serious side effects. I am glad the kitties are doing better by the way, so I am not entirely "harsh", I am sure you are providing them with a wonderful and forever loving home.
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Mia Liger Fluffy Banzai Smudge Hazy
& Midas ~ Golden Retriever and honorary cat