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She had them at home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bratty_cat_12 Jun 20, 2005 12:03 PM

Sweetie had her kittens! There are 5. Sadly 2 of them are deformed. Rudolph doesn't have a nose and the other one doesn't have back legs. Rudolph won't be able to make it because his mouth won't open. There are 2 calicos,1 all orange, and the 2 deformed are tan and white. Last night I forgot to put Sweetie out we woke up and she had already had 4. About an hour later she had another. She's still contracting and we can feel a few lumps in her stomach so...............

I'M SOOOOO HAPPY

Replies (12)

Bratty_cat_12 Jun 20, 2005 04:34 PM

Momma's doing fine. Rudolph's still alive.But, mamma tried to kill the little orange one. I was also wondering if anyone had a recipe for a milk replacer.

PHWildCat Jun 21, 2005 07:31 PM

I am glad that she had them at home and you can keep an eye on them. Your best bet at this point is to take the two deformed ones to the vet and have them put to sleep. Sweetie knows they won't make it and she has no intention of taking care of them. She will use her energy on the ones that are ok. Sounds cruel but that is her instinct. The little one that can't open his mouth is going to starve to death and the little one with no back legs may very well have some other major problems as well. At least ask your Vets opinion of the one with no back legs. Let us know how things are going.
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Cat Board Monitor and Chat Host
Pet Hobbyist
A house without cats is like a garden without flowers

Bratty_cat_12 Jun 21, 2005 09:23 PM

Rudolph started to suckle after a while but he didn't make it. The other deformed one is doing great getting around good. Mamma loves her/him to death. Our calicos and the orange one are also fine. Sweetie's started to get bored with them. She's turning back to her old playful self.

Wiscats Jun 21, 2005 09:58 PM

>>Momma's doing fine. Rudolph's still alive.But, mamma tried to kill the little orange one. I was also wondering if anyone had a recipe for a milk replacer.

RECIPES FOR KITTEN FORMULA
For kittens who need extra supplement
For kittens who don’t feel well
For orphan kittens

#1.
13 oz. water - heat, take off burner, then briskly add 1 envelope gelatin and whisk to mix.
Let mixture cool. Set in a shallow sinkful of cold water and ice cubes to hurry the process along.
Add 1 12oz. can EVAPORATED canned milk (not condensed!) - regular, not low fat
Add 2 tablespoons of palin live culture yogurt
Add 2 teaspoons Karo light syrup
1 - 4 eggs yolks, uncooked and very fresh. (No whites - separate and discard or use for another purpose).
Mix well with a whisk.
Pour into ice cube trays and freeze. (Spray trays first with Spam so the cubes come out easily.) Once frozen, pop out all the cubes of formula and put them in a freezer bag, then back into the freezer.
To use, take out 2 or 3 cubes and warm them in the microwave. It needs to be used right away. If not used within 30 minutes, discard (because of raw egg, sugar).
KMR with colostrum should be used for the first week of life. After that the formula can be used instead of KMR - the formula is also cheaper. With the formula, there is less problem with diarrhea - the live lactobacillus cultures in the yogurt helps.

#2.
For bottle or syringe babies. There is seldom a problem with loose stool with this formula and all the kittens who get it seem to thrive and grow as if they had a nursing mom.
1 Large can (12 oz) evaporated milk
2 Large cans (24 oz) water
1/2 cup baby rice cereal
2 Tblsp Light Karo Syrup
2 Jars Gerber’s baby chicken food
250 mgs Taurine (from health food store)
4 inch strip of Nutrical
(Add 2 raw egg yolks for use during the 1st 10 days of the kitten’s life)
Blend all ingredients well. Must be kept refrigerated, but not for more than 3 days. May be frozen into ice cubes and thawed as needed. Warm in microwave or under hot water before serving. Do not reheat more than 2 times!

#3.
13 oz. can goat’s milk
13 oz. Pedialyte (unflavored)
1 pkg. gelatin (dissolved per pkg directions)
2 eggs yolks (hard boiled; discard whites because risk of salmonella)
4 oz. Best Foods mayonnaise
4 oz. plain goat yogurt
1-2 tablespoons light Karo syrup
Put all ingredients into food processor and blend until smooth and frothy. Refrigerate for at least 6 hours. It will gel as it cools.
To use: warm up to just above room temperature in microwave. It will liquefy.

#4.
For a cat who is ill and not eating:
Make tasty cat goo with boiled chicken, yeast flakes, and a half a cup of porridge oats.
Add a generous helping of catnip and liquidize it all. Give a little of that at a time,
gently warmed (with any medication tablets crushed in it).
The catnip smell makes a cat want to eat it and disguises the taste of the nasty tablets.
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The Wiscats: Every life should have (at least) 9 cats!
Monsieur Gervais le Blanc
Beau Wiscat
Simba Wiscat
Minette Wiscat-CCarlini
Henri le Chanceux Wiscat
Andre-Guillaume Wiscat
Annie-Claire Rexford-CCarlini
The Excellent Lady Sophie-Marie Wiscat-StLouie
Poucette-Noelle CCarlini-Rexford
Sylvie-Chantal la Joie Wiscat de Spanky Ranch
~~and varying numbers of foster kitties coming and going, including right now: Stevie, Flame, Cocoa~~ Plus mom cat Celina with her 5 kittens: Samson, Wilson, Rena, Rebel and May

Wiscats Jun 21, 2005 09:56 PM

>>Sweetie had her kittens! There are 5. Sadly 2 of them are deformed. Rudolph doesn't have a nose and the other one doesn't have back legs. Rudolph won't be able to make it because his mouth won't open. There are 2 calicos,1 all orange, and the 2 deformed are tan and white. Last night I forgot to put Sweetie out

Put her out?????????
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The Wiscats: Every life should have (at least) 9 cats!
Monsieur Gervais le Blanc
Beau Wiscat
Simba Wiscat
Minette Wiscat-CCarlini
Henri le Chanceux Wiscat
Andre-Guillaume Wiscat
Annie-Claire Rexford-CCarlini
The Excellent Lady Sophie-Marie Wiscat-StLouie
Poucette-Noelle CCarlini-Rexford
Sylvie-Chantal la Joie Wiscat de Spanky Ranch
~~and varying numbers of foster kitties coming and going, including right now: Stevie, Flame, Cocoa~~ Plus mom cat Celina with her 5 kittens: Samson, Wilson, Rena, Rebel and May

Bratty_cat_12 Jun 22, 2005 11:07 AM

Yes my kitties are not allowed in the house.(until now)I fell asleep and mamma snuck into the basement and had them there.

Rudolph died 12 hours after he was born.

Wiscats Jun 22, 2005 12:48 PM

>>Yes my kitties are not allowed in the house.(until now)I fell asleep and mamma snuck into the basement and had them there.
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>>Rudolph died 12 hours after he was born.

I'm really sorry about that little one. Kittens are very fragile beings. Very often babies don't make it for one reason or another.
Mom cat may be turning her back on them momentarily to eat or cuddle with you, but she should be tending to them most of the time.
Be sure to feed the mom cat KITTEN food. She needs the extra protein and calories.
Once the kittens are weaned (8 or so weeks) you should be sure to have the mother spayed.
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The Wiscats: Every life should have (at least) 9 cats!
Monsieur Gervais le Blanc
Beau Wiscat
Simba Wiscat
Minette Wiscat-CCarlini
Henri le Chanceux Wiscat
Andre-Guillaume Wiscat
Annie-Claire Rexford-CCarlini
The Excellent Lady Sophie-Marie Wiscat-StLouie
Poucette-Noelle CCarlini-Rexford
Sylvie-Chantal la Joie Wiscat de Spanky Ranch
~~and varying numbers of foster kitties coming and going, including right now: Stevie, Flame, Cocoa~~ Plus mom cat Celina with her 5 kittens: Samson, Wilson, Rena, Rebel and May

Bratty_cat_12 Jun 22, 2005 01:47 PM

Bianca just died. Her Mamma was cuddling her while she cried. Now we know that we have 2 girls and a boy. Simba, Padme Amidala, and Chloe. We are keeping dry kitten food in her dish all day. And she gets 1 can of Fancy Feast a day.

PHMoxie Jun 22, 2005 03:51 PM

I'm sorry that you have lost two kittens. Momma really needs to be eating kitten food. One can of fancy feast isn't going to be enough for her and three kittens to live off. Please talk to your mom about getting some kitten food even if it's dry kitten food it's better then fancy feast.
Keep us updated. I'll see you in chat tonight.

PHMoxie

Bratty_cat_12 Jun 22, 2005 08:27 PM

We are keeping dry kitten food in her dish all day. And she gets 1 can of Fancy Feast a day.

JaimeMarie Jun 23, 2005 06:16 AM

Oh I'm glad to hear that.
Bratty keep us updated. Do you have a digital camera?
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Jaime owned by
Mya the dog
and the cats:Crash, Moxie, Gabby and sometimes Tucker

Wiscats Jun 23, 2005 07:54 PM

>>Bianca just died. Her Mamma was cuddling her while she cried.

Awww, I'm so sorry she didn't make it. Was she the one without back legs?
Good luck with the other 3. Sounds like Mom cat is getting what she needs.
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The Wiscats: Every life should have (at least) 9 cats!
Monsieur Gervais le Blanc
Beau Wiscat
Simba Wiscat
Minette Wiscat-CCarlini
Henri le Chanceux Wiscat
Andre-Guillaume Wiscat
Annie-Claire Rexford-CCarlini
The Excellent Lady Sophie-Marie Wiscat-StLouie
Poucette-Noelle CCarlini-Rexford
Sylvie-Chantal la Joie Wiscat de Spanky Ranch
~~and varying numbers of foster kitties coming and going, including right now: Stevie, Flame, Cocoa~~ Plus mom cat Celina with her 5 kittens: Samson, Wilson, Rena, Rebel and May

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