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Totally self-serving question

kittyromeo Jan 31, 2008 07:57 AM

I've been doing some genealogy work for a while now, and I've now at the point I've got missing cousins and near cousins popping out of the woodwork. Some of my extended family is really excited and asking to see their part of the family tree and all my notes.

My question is - what if you found some not so nice stuff? Like granpa spent some time in jail, or your favorite uncle lied about earning a purple heart in WWII? Would you want to know?

What about medical information? If your grandmother and all her siblings died with kidney problems or auto immune diseases would you want to know? or would it make you worry for no good reason?

How much should be told?

Replies (11)

ThreeCalicos Jan 31, 2008 09:26 AM

>>I've been doing some genealogy work for a while now, and I've now at the point I've got missing cousins and near cousins popping out of the woodwork. Some of my extended family is really excited and asking to see their part of the family tree and all my notes.
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>>My question is - what if you found some not so nice stuff? Like granpa spent some time in jail, or your favorite uncle lied about earning a purple heart in WWII? Would you want to know?
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Here's where my selectivity would come in and it's just my personality. I'd probably tell things about a couple of generations back (where no one knew the person) but I'd hold back knowledge about a favorite grandpa or uncle, just because I liked them and didn't want to tarnish that.
***This does NOT hold true if the crimes were something predatory like child abuse or sexual behaviors, though, because I feel we need to protect everyone from those guys. So, if grandpa went to jail for a hot check, that's one thing, but if it was abuse, I'd tell it. There are some things that seem to follow families, even if not linearly: I had a cousin in his fifties who was abusive to women his whole life. His nephew (not close, didn't live near and never even spent any time with him) is in his twenties and has already spent time in jail for same. They share an abusive female ancestor a generation before that. Gotta be in the blood someplace. So, I think those type things and diagnosed mental illnesses that can be inherited should be told.

>>What about medical information?
Well....I've always heard that people need to know as much as possible about their family medical history. So, I guess I'd tell flat facts like "died of kidney disease" or "died of lung cancer" It might worry them but might also give them some help to avoid problems.
Of course, my real belief is that most people will do what they're going to do, no matter what warnings. (i.e. I should exercise and lose weight due to heart problems in family but I don't.) And, there will always be people who worry.

Another thing is that I would never share ALL my notes with them.
Point them toward some of the sources you used and let them make their own discoveries if they want. You said these people popped out of the woodwork. That indicates you don't really know them.
Give them some information to help them if they're serious about finding out more but don't just hand it all over. I suspect it's mostly an idle curiosity on their part since they've found out you've done the work. That way, they can't be mad because you refused to share any information, either.

And, I'd not make comments on the side because you know whatever you share is going to be e-mailed around the world and it would be the old "Romeo said that your whoever did whatever".......

And, no, I never have an opinion on anything.

cyclopsgrl Jan 31, 2008 05:51 PM

Not nice stuff: Well, since my brother is fitted for an orange jump suit in several states, but hasn't quite had to wear one (two of three strikes before he is out), and my family would be fodder for a Gerry Springer show on most good days (Mom raising her granddaughter due to drug addicted birth mother, etc...), I can't think of much that would shock me at this point. I also feel we don't bear the "sins of our fathers", so even if someone in the family years ago had a horrible past (was found to be Jack the Ripper), there isn't much I could do and it really wouldn't affect me much. I know back into Great Grandparents and little further back we are fairly OK.

Medical: I'd like to know. Many things are passed thru our family (Breast Cancer on Maternal side). I think medical history is good to know. Too many generations back, probably won't matter as much as Grandparents, Parents, Siblings, Aunts/Uncles, Cousins... More direct line. I pretty much know the history on the maternal side, father was adopted.
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Tammy and Pookey
(Stanley 8/91 - 8/07)

cyclopsgrl Jan 31, 2008 05:55 PM

I will add we are a fairly small family to track, so there really aren't any hidden cousins, etc... I know all first and second cousins very well and my Mom knew/knows all her Aunts/Uncles and first and second cousins. I have no third cousins yet, my Mom may...
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Tammy and Pookey
(Stanley 8/91 - 8/07)

cyclopsgrl Jan 31, 2008 06:04 PM

LOL -- I missed your very last question about how much should be told. I only saw the "what would you want to know" on the bad stuff and medical questions.

I'd share medical. That may only help, but again, beyond grandparents, it wouldn't really matter to most. The closer the person is to you on the tree, the more impact you have to worry about (i.e., Breast Cancer on maternal side). I don't think I would bother with beyond first cousin as anything further probably wouldn't affect the person...

I'd probably skip sharing bad news like petty crimes, etc., if they even surfaced. If it was a beloved uncle, etc., someone living or recently passed, I'd really weigh what purpose knowing about any bad history would serve, if something significant showed up. I probably wouldn't share unless it was monumental and then with immediate family I was close with, depending on how I thought they'd take it and what it dealt with.
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Tammy and Pookey
(Stanley 8/91 - 8/07)

kittyromeo Jan 31, 2008 07:21 PM

Thanks for the input - I needed outsider's opinions who had no stakes in the matter.

There seems to be an unwritten rule of negotiation among the distant cousins who are finding one another online in genealogy boards when it comes to trading info - so far only one person has been out of line and it was me - but even they have given me a few surprises. One person ran down a list of who had heart attacks unasked, but things got strange when I asked about religion 100+ years ago. Is it really that shameful to admit a few dead Lutherans in the family?

I've got a military record on order that may be a bomb shell, and I have to admit I'm nervous. The man may have never of talked himself, but plenty of others have, creating a mythology that's too impressive to be true. The distant cousins don't know, don't care, the family around the Thanksgiving table will.

I've got a few things to think about.

Thanks again!

cyclopsgrl Feb 02, 2008 07:43 AM

Is it really that shameful to admit a few dead Lutherans in the family?

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I hope not, half my family tree would be black sheep, LOL... Half Catholics, half Luterans, and I went Methodist (grew up in a small town in my teens, only one church)... Uh, oh, maybe I am the black sheep...
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Tammy and Pookey
(Stanley 8/91 - 8/07)

kittyromeo Feb 02, 2008 03:12 PM

Uh, oh, maybe I am the black sheep...
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Baaaa!

pmantone Feb 03, 2008 03:42 PM

We have done quite a bit of research into our family tree and we have found some odd things as well. We pretty much take it in stride as a lot of it has to do with the time and place of the events. For example Tarrant County in Texas is named after my father's family. But the name came about from the Tarrants spending so much time in jail that they called it the Tarrant jail and from there came Tarrant County. We laugh about it simply because back in those days, things were much different. I guess it depends upon your perspective of things as to what you might or might not want someone to know. I suspect that most have skeletons hidden here and there.
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Boris's Human, Pam

kittyromeo Feb 04, 2008 09:06 AM

But the name came about from the Tarrants spending so much time in jail that they called it the Tarrant jail and from there came Tarrant County.
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That is SERIOUSLY funny! I'm sure there has been enough time passed to wear that badge with pride. (pun fully intended)

ThreeCalicos Feb 06, 2008 02:02 PM

>>>For example Tarrant County in Texas is named after my father's family.>But the name came about from the Tarrants spending so much time in jail that they called it the Tarrant jail and from there came Tarrant County.

ThreeCalicos Feb 06, 2008 02:05 PM

>>>>>For example Tarrant County in Texas is named after my father's family.>But the name came about from the Tarrants spending so much time in jail that they called it the Tarrant jail and from there came Tarrant County.

SO DARNED WIERD!!! No idea where the center or end part of my post went.
I had typed a sentence between these quotes from yours to the effect that I'd mentally skipped ahead to Cattle Barons or some such.
Then read the next sentence and about cracked up. Bet the Texas relatives still would like people to think the rich part.
Great story

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