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Hello,

first of all I´m sorry about my English, I haven´t used it since school. Second, I don´t know if the topic is right in Milksnake-Forum or better should be posted in Genetic-Forum.
Now my question: I got 8 Sinaloans from 1 throw. You can see pics down or on http://www.lampropelten.de.vu at the Lampropeltis triangulum sinaloae link.
Is it genetic caused that the Rings at 2 animals are missing and 2 more animals have aberrant tail colours?

Greetings from Germany

Wow,those are cool.I have only seen a couple other patternless ones.I hope they prove genetic.

shannon

I don't know whether the missing rings is genetic or not. But it could be genetic. I'd mate the parents again next year and see if more ringless hatch. And I'd raise the youngsters and mate the two ringless together. If the two are the same sex, I'd mate them to the aberrant tailed Sinaloans. If possible, I'd also mate a ringless to an unrelated normal, too. Good luck.

Paul Hollander

Hi Paul, that´s the problem, there are 7 male´s in a clutch of 8 animals. The patternless and the aberrant tailed animals are also males. So I only can get hets and that´ll take such a long time to wait.
The next thing: I only bought the animals, don´t have the parents, but I´ll try to get them.

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Given that two of the clutch are patternless I would say chances are the cause is genetic however only further breedings will prove it for sure.

it would be interesting to see closeups of the two patternless snakes. from the pic in the forum, it woiuld appear the triads, or some of them, are present, but the melanin is greatly reduced. so are they patternless--the triads are missing? or are they hypos of some sort--the triads are there but diminished in distinctiveness because the black has been reduced to a very light gray? I've seen some like the former before, but not like the latter.
terry

So here is another pic of one of the animals with reduced patterns.

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