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I guess it's similiar to Parazap..Can I buy the liquid form from GNC or Vitamin world? He said it can be used for reptiles although I don't see it strictly sold as for reptile use...I see it for human use at GNC...Is this the same???

Acidophliz can be bought at Petsmart (6.99). And yes, GNC is the same.
Parazap will also rid your bearded of parasites and prevent them. acidolophus does not.
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TheClassyLizard

I was under the impression they were the same....

It replaces good gut flora that meds destroy.
Parazap does this also, but Acidolophus does not have the other ingredients that can help with parasites.
If your intention is to just replace the flora, then acidolophus/liz is fine.
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TheClassyLizard

hi
achidophulus r bacterias who r housed in human tummy and also in dragons there tummy.
they need those bacterias to digest the food very wel.
if you have given medicines then you need to replace those good bacterias .
becuase the medicines kill the bad bacterias ,it also wil kill the good bacterias they need for digestion.
parazap is based on herbs it wil kill overall worms and there is also a apetiete stimulant in.
both you can give same time becuase parazap is tested togheter with good bacterias and the bacterias stil alive .
so short , achidophulus bacterias,
,parazap herbs, to deworm and give apeteit and better imume system.
byeeee

Can I still use Acidophiliz??????????
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kill 'em with kindness

Sure both acidophiliz and Worm Guard have increased appetite in many dragons off feed.
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Mystical Dragons

In that past post I gave you a few different products that might help stimulater appetite.

Parazap helps rid the dragon of parasites naturally, and also contains an appetite stimulant.

Worm Guard has many of the same ingredients as parazap, and does the same thing. Helps lower parasites and also stimulates appetite. Worm guard is cheaper however and can be bought at LLLreptile.com. I've had good success with both brands parazap, and worm guard.

The acidophillus comes in a capsule form at like GNC and this can be given to a lizard too help get good gut flora in the dragon. There is a brand acidphiliz you can get at petsmart. The acidophiliz is for reptiles specifically and comes in a liquid form for easy administering. I highly recommend giving this to pogo if he gets meds from the vet for parasites. I also give this once a month to my dragons just for overall wellness. It does help even in unmediated dragons. I've noticed them eat better afterwards so I think it helps with appetite as well.

I hope you understand this a bit more. If you don't just ask questions.
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Mystical Dragons

I just bought the liquid Acidophiliz by Pet Authority from Petsmart tonight and the directions call for 3 drops daily administered by the dropper into the mouth of the reptile to be medicated...Now since pogo is just a baby do you recommend this amount daily or do you think this is too much. I will say that I did give him 3 drops mixed with some pedialyte soon as I got home but that's all for today...Waiting on your response to see what to do tomorrow...I emailed a vet Tuesday and got a reply today to get him in for a fecal so I'll keep you posted on that situation...Thanks as always!!

if he is still not eating very well. Coccidia infestation can literally explode, and the longer you wait, the more pain he will be in and the longer his recuperation time might be.
Now he might not have coccidia, but that is something you should have ruled out asap.
Here is some good info i found, esp. the part of "what happens inside the host"...

What on Earth are Coccidia?

Coccidia are single celled organisms that infect the intestine. They are microscopic parasites detectable on routine fecal tests in the same way that worms are but coccidia are not worms and they are not visible to the naked eye. Coccidia infection causes a watery diarrhea which is sometimes bloody and can even be a life-threatening problem to an especially young or small pet.

Where do Coccidia Come From?

Oocysts (pronounced o'o-sists), like those shown above, are passed in stool. In the outside world, the oocysts begin to mature or “sporulate.” After they have adequately matured, they become infective to any host (dog or cat) that accidentally swallows them.

To be more precise, coccidia come from fecal-contaminated ground. They are swallowed when a pet grooms/licks the dirt off itself. In some cases, sporulated oocysts are swallowed by mice and the host is infected when it eats the mouse. Coccidia infection is especially common in young animals housed in groups (in shelters, rescue areas, kennels, etc.) This is a common parasite and is not necessarily a sign of poor husbandry.

What Happens Inside the Host?

The sporulated oocyst breaks open and releases eight sporozoites. These sporozoites each finds an intestinal cell and begins to reproduce inside it. Ultimately, the cell is so full of what are called “merozoites” that it bursts releasing the merozoites which seek out their own intestinal cells and the process begins again. It is important to note how thousands of intestinal cells can become infected and destroyed as a result of accidentally swallowing a single oocyst.

As the intestinal cells are destroyed in larger and larger numbers, intestinal function is disrupted and a bloody, watery diarrhea results. The fluid loss can be dangerously dehydrating to a very young or small pet.

How Are Coccidia Detected?

A routine fecal test is a good idea for any new puppy or kitten whether there are signs of diarrhea or not as youngsters are commonly parasitized. This sort of test is also a good idea for any patient with diarrhea. The above illustration demonstrates coccidia oocysts seen under the microscope in a fecal sample. Coccidia are microscopic and a test such as this is necessary to rule them in. It should be noted that small numbers of coccidia can be hard to detect so just because a fecal sample tests negative, this does not mean that the pet is not infected. Sometimes several fecal tests are performed, especially in a young pet with a refractory diarrhea; parasites may not be evident until later in the course of the condition.

How is Coccidiosis Treated?

We do not have any medicine that will kill coccidia; only the patient’s immune system can do that. But we can give medicines called “coccidiostats” which can inhibit coccidial reproduction. Once the numbers stop expanding, it is easier for the patient’s immune system to “catch up” and wipe the infection out. This also means, though, that the time it takes to clear the infection depends on how many coccidia organisms there are to start with and how strong the patient’s immune system is. A typical treatment course lasts about a week or two but it is important to realize that the medication should be given until the diarrhea resolves plus an extra couple of days. Medication should be given for at least five days total. Sometimes courses as long as a month are needed.
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