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I find this very interesting. CBS news, thats one of your own news networks, conducted this poll. Only 55% of Americans feel that removing Saddam was worthwhile while 50% feel that the results so far hasn't justified the costs. Thats your own citizens opinions. So DevinP and the rest of the whole world is anti-american crowd, are those who don't believe that removing Saddam was worthwhile traitors and anti-american. Thats close to half your country. Read the rest of the results as well. Your own citizens are just as divided on what they think as we are. So does this make them anti-american???????????

CBS Poll: Was Iraq War Worth It?
CBSNews
New York

Wednesday 13 August 2003

(CBS) A majority of Americans, 55%, continues to believe that removing Saddam Hussein was a worthwhile effort, despite its costs. This has not changed in the past month, though it remains down from the 65% of Americans who thought so in May.

But when asked to evaluate the overall results of the war so far, Americans are split, with nearly half saying those results have not been worth the costs.

Although U.S. and coalition forces continue their efforts to bring stability and order to Iraq, Americans are increasingly unlikely to say those efforts are going well. While 53% say the U.S. efforts are going well today, that is down from 60% who thought so last month, and down even more from the 72% who thought things were going well in May.

Partisans hold different assessments on the state of affairs in Iraq: nearly three-quarters of Republicans say things are going well (though only 10% of them say things are going “very well”) while 57% of Democrats believe things are going badly.

And Americans continue to divide when asked if the U.S. is in control of the situation in Iraq.

The Hunt For Weapons and Saddam
Americans’ confidence that the U.S. will find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq has dropped over the last few months. Today, 52% of Americans remain confident the U.S. will ultimately find weapons, but 44% are not confident. Last month, 55% were confident, and in June, two-thirds of Americans thought it was only a matter of time before the weapons turned up.

However, it does not seem to be important to many Americans anymore: less than half say that it matters whether or not the U.S. can find weapons, a sentiment that has not changed since last month.

There are partisan divisions on this question: 60% of Republicans say it does not matter, while 54% of Democrats say that it does.

Americans are more positive about the prospects of corralling Saddam: 69% say they are confident the U.S. will be able to kill or capture him. With the recent U.S. success in finding Saddam’s sons and speculation that the capture may be close at hand, confidence has risen since May.

Republicans are overwhelmingly confident the U.S. will find Saddam, with 85% believing so, and most Democrats agree, with 57% expressing confidence.

Unlike the weapons search, the search for Saddam still matters to most Americans: 72% say it matters whether or not the U.S. can apprehend or kill the former Iraqi dictator.

Meanwhile, following the controversy over classified sections of the 9/11 report and the questions raised about possible Saudi Arabian connections to terror groups, Americans are less inclined to see Saudi Arabia as a U.S. ally or as a friendly nation than they were in May. Now, less than half – 45% - say Saudi Arabia is a friend or ally; in May 54% said it was.

The President, Iraq and Foreign Policy
A majority of Americans – 57% - continues to approve of the way George W. Bush is handling the situation in Iraq, but the President’s ratings on handling Iraq are the lowest he has received since the conflict began.

On other foreign policy matters, the President does less well: under half of Americans approve of his handling of other foreign policy issues, a figure down slightly from last month.

Overall, the President’s job approval rating has dropped to 55%, down from 60% last month.

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Only 55% of Americans feel that removing Saddam was worthwhile while 50% feel that the results so far hasn't justified the costs

wow thats 105% of americans. do you balance your own check book?

well who cares about polls and stats, we are here and we arent leaving, no matter how much people whine and moan about it. we have a job to do and we are doing it well. so take your polls and stats and keep them to yourself. yes devin maybe childish at times, but he is standing for his convictions just like you and me. if you read past the name calling you will see validity in his posts. as for you kanuck you are the same way as is herman and everyone else in here. i said it before everyone has an opinion and everyone has an A$$hole get it.

froggy
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The next time the shuttle lands, lets all get dressed up in ape suits and charge at the astronaughts yelling and ranting. That way they can try to figure out where they took a wrong turn.

Actually I was referring to the second paragraph in the article for the second 50%. So it doesn'tr ad up to 105%, it's still 100%.

"But when asked to evaluate the overall results of the war so far, Americans are split, with nearly half saying those results have not been worth the costs."

P.S.
There is nothing wrong with having an opinion and being passionate about it. There is nothing wrong with voicing that opinion and defending it. But to tar everyone who questions your view of events as anti-american is wrong. That's the same smear tactics used during the days of McCarthy's witch hunt for communists and i don't think too many in your country would defend that practice. My understanding, and forgive me if I'm wrong, is that no matter what else you can say about the war, you did topple an evil dictator and are trying to bring democracy to Iraq. Make it a place where people can have differing opinions without being shouted down, called a traitor and maybe even killed. I think that should apply here as well. You can dissagree with my opinion, you can call me an idiot for my stance, but you can't try and dismiss me by labeling me as some sort of anti-american for my stand. You'd have to do the same thing with a very large number of your compatriots as well.

i cant honestly say that i have never called anyone in here and anti-american...the reason i am in the military is to defend the constitution and the ways of life for the american people, be it born and raised or immagrants.

i stand for equal right and humanity. be it that we have to destroy a country and rebuild it for that to happen is a small price to pay for something we will not be around to see in the future. i firmly believe that this country will thrive with mcdonalds, burger king and shopping malls.

froggy
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The next time the shuttle lands, lets all get dressed up in ape suits and charge at the astronaughts yelling and ranting. That way they can try to figure out where they took a wrong turn.

I can respect that stance. Good luck in Iraq. I hope you're home safe and sound for Christmas.

I respect your stance because as I stated earlier you are a soldier and most certainly a good soldier. A good soldier has to think this way otherwise he would not be in the right job.

You regard this as your job that you want to do well (and you surely do).

You are right in your opinion as long as it affects your area of thinking.

But there are more areas of thinking: There is not a single case where the U.S. had been attacked by the Iraq or by Iraqis(if I am mistaken, please name one).

The actions taken by the U.S. and Israel will fuel the terrorism (as you already life to see) not decrease it.
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

Devin P.

worng again as usual about being a soldier. please keep the soldier remarks to yourself. you are not in the military and never have been, being a cop does not make you a soldier you are a civilian regardless of how you look at it. and being a good soldier doesnt mean you agree with this war nor does it make you a bad soldier to disagree with it. i know alot of people whoa re fantastic soldiers that did not believe in this war, but they believed in helping people out and gave there lives for it as well. you have no idea the feeling that you were playing cards or dominoes with someone one night then going to a memorial service the next day. you can not fatham the heartache that this entails. so again please keep the soldier comments to yourself or do not direct them at me becasue you have no idea.

as for being anti american...no disagreeing with war is not anti american, but like i have said before go ask the allianc of human shields that came over here in the beginning and then went home after they saw how it really was. take a little trip down here and see for yourself and quit making gutless assumptions.

that is all as i am get furious with this post
froggy
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The next time the shuttle lands, lets all get dressed up in ape suits and charge at the astronaughts yelling and ranting. That way they can try to figure out where they took a wrong turn.

true this may be but half of our population probally exist of people who have came from other countrys anyhow, bringing their downward ways with them.
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Even if your on the right track you will get run over if you just sit there
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You actually believe that the people in the U.S. who oppose the war are immigrants who have brought their wayward ways from their country. Your country was founded by immigrants.It's the great melting pot. The reason people all over the world admire america and want to come there is because it's a land that has an open democracy that welcomes diverse opinion. That has to be one of the most rascist statements I've seen. You should be ashamed of yourself. I don't think DevinP, Scottish or Froggy would agree with you on that one. Get a life.

well racist it may be but it is my oppinion. Same as the useless flak that you post all the time is yours. I was just stating my thoughts on it, not giving your chain a rattle. And I don't really care what you or any of the others think I did not post it to gain any approval from the peanut gallery, and as far as that goes if I want to be racist I can because I live in a free country the USA.
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Even if your on the right track you will get run over if you just sit there
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Don't speak on my behalf either.

Well if you agree with this wingnut I guess I have a better understanding of where you're coming from. Time to go iron your sheets.

and this article is the reason foriegn policy is not voted into action by the people. thye would change there minds and to pull us out now would be detrimental to the middle east as a whole.

what about the UN approval havent heard anyone bring that up.
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The next time the shuttle lands, lets all get dressed up in ape suits and charge at the astronaughts yelling and ranting. That way they can try to figure out where they took a wrong turn.

Wow! That had to be the busiest poll taker on the planet to have asked EVERY American to participate in your poll. I find it amusing that you hold a "poll" in such high regard. It's shows what a lack of substance you guys rely on to get your irrelevant posts across. Now why don't you give some detailed information about those who were solicited to participate in the poll. Could it be that the majority were democrats? Do they all have jobs? Were they all U.S. citizens? How many people collected and submitted information and were they biassed? Of all the people here I disagree with, you are the last one I would have suspected would come up with a post worthy of someone as delusional as Stoeckl or Slobek.

Yeah, right. CBS news has an agenda to discredit the president. I can dig up a half dozen other polls that show roughly the same thing. That's your news service and your citizens. It's accurate so deal with it.