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SouthernBel Oct 17, 2003 02:55 PM

My name is Belinda, but my friends call me Bel. I have always been fascinated by arboreals of all sorts, but the Blue Phase Green Tree Python is my favorite!
I have been trying to find out everything I can about GTP before I make my first purchase and I just keep running into the same information over and over again, and none of it is very in-depth. I hope that your experience will be of some help.
I have a very large tropical rainforest enclosure, 15x20 feet, where I like to spend time and relax. What I want to do (and this may be incredibly nieve of me) is to introduce a couple of GTPs into the habitat which is already set up with ideal conditions.
My first question is, is it SAFE to let a couple of pythons lose into an enclosure where I may sit down to read a book? Secondly, if so, then how would the pythons feel about other reptiles, perhaps an iguana, also sharing the habitat? Thanks in advance for your input!

Bel

PS-Any other ladies on here?

Replies (7)

stu74 Oct 17, 2003 06:39 PM

I would recemond that you do not go a head with housing chrondos in an area that you would use for sitting as most will bite readily,Unless you could screen an area off for them.
You can house a pair together in a large enough enclosure as long as its not 2 males,I wouldnt recomend housing other reptiles in with a chrondo.
If your looking for more imformation on green trees id suggest taking a look at Greg maxwells site www.finegtps.com

Regards stu74

dvf1973 Oct 18, 2003 05:01 AM

ditto, 1/2 fangs on adults,they hit hard!!! and often, they also spook in large enclosures, is it always 80 humidity in there, that would be impressive, if so get a large 4by2by2 foot screen cage they sell them at http://www.reptiledepot.com and lots of other places via kingsnake in the supply areas, huge cages, easy to see through, but honestly unless its a concrete sauna with misting systems, and waterproof chairs, oh and the iguana,nope bad idea, try some cool geckos , bananas,goldens,peacocks,crocadiles,cresteds are cool, beit smaller etbs and gtps will enjoy them too, d

Julian Garcia Oct 18, 2003 01:12 PM

no, do not house them together.

no, dont use a larger enclosures, you will find that they will find one place and stick to it. And keeping a proper temp gradient will be extreamly difficult.

no, do not keep anything else in there with them, geckos, iggs, whatever.

not all gtp's some of the cbb chondros i have are more calm then any ball python i have cared for. Out of all of my chondros 1 is agressive, its a baby and i fully expect it to grow out of its nippy stage.

This is not your best place for advice, i would check the chondroweb forums www.chondroweb.com

gex-anon Oct 18, 2003 01:36 PM

Okay, here we go...

I agree with everything Julian has said.

1. That large of an enclosure would be difficult to keep a chondro in for several reasons.
a)In such an open enclosure, humidity is difficult to maintain unless you have misting systems running several times daily.
b)How do you plan to feed this chondro? Chances are good it will find the safest spot it feels comfortable in, which will likely be fairly well concealed and possibly high up. Just finding your chondro for it's feedings will be difficult.
c)Getting proper thermal gradients in something that large is difficult as well. The entire room would have to be wired for heat and light and would be most likely rather difficult to keep up with.

2. Keeping chondros with other animals is not the best of ideas for three reasons.
a)Your chondro may get stressed by the presence of other larger animals in the cage on a regular basis, including you.
b)Larger animals may hurt or attack your chondro. You yourself may even injure the chondro by stepping on it if it decided to ground itself and you didn't notice.
c)Your chondro may eat any smaller animals such as geckos that you may put in there.

3. The two people that said chondros are evil and will readily bite must not have worked with very many chondros. I currently have 23 chondros, 3 of which have foul personalities, but even they will allow gentle handling if the mood is right for them. Even my hatchlings are pretty calm. To say all chondros are nippy and foul-tempered shows a lack of experience of working with these animals.

If you are looking for more chondro information, I'd highly recommend checking out Chondroweb or the Morelia Viridis Forum. Both are frequented by breeders and experienced keepers of Green Tree Pythons.

SouthernBel Oct 19, 2003 02:49 PM

Thanks everyone for the quick replies! The humidity is kept very high for the exotic plants that I grow in there and I have a small waterfall and butterfly koi pool, also for humidity. The caged area within the room sounds like the best idea for me and I will keep doing my homework! By the way, is $750 for a baby Aru out of a solid blue a good deal? It sounds good to me, but I realize that the babies may not end up blue and that's what I really want. How do I get ahold of a blue GTP?

dvf1973 Oct 20, 2003 03:08 AM

could be a good price, although you cant keep babies in the environment you are interested in
http://www.chondroweb.com/Caging.htm
this link has good advice. by the way, i was incinuating in my earlier comments that as stated by some of the pissier comments that other animals shouldn't be kept together, and maybe some cool geckos would work in there loose and the snake could be caged in there, often the circle is apt to be quick to snap(i hope only out of respect for these animals) ,just in the arboreals catagory, i too have lots of emeralds, chondros, jungles, amazons, 30 now, and dont have to explain myself, its always a learning experience, i study the sites they have as well,and am always a quick study, good luck d
http://newlair.chondroforum.com/Available.htm#Clutches
aaa has some awsome Al Zulich, Sorong babies left,lots of blue,they have them posted on the classifieds

Julian Garcia Oct 21, 2003 04:03 PM

Trooper Walsh has some soon to be solid blue animals for sale. I think asking price starts at 8k.

Sean Stuwart also have some soon to be blue animals http://www.herpetologic.net/
Prices start at 6k

Greg Maxwell also has 2 blue projects going on *no eggs yet*
http://www.finegtps.com/
Reservations prices start at 2k

Starting to see a trend here?

If you want a blue chondro, you can try your luck and get a chondro from a solid blue Female chondro. With that there is a slight chance you might get a female, and a slight change that after her first pregnancy she might retain some or all of her hormornal blue color.

If you are looking for a blue chondro look for a male that has lots of blue, is solid blue or has a blue liniage. And a female who did not turn blue due to hormornal changes.

Either way expect to pay at least 2k for a neonate and 3 to 5 times that for a fully changed adult. Blue chondros are rare.

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