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breeding siblings....long

mbmcewen Oct 18, 2003 12:49 PM

I have heard that breeding siblings won't cause problems until so many generations down the road...what does this mean exactly? That breeding the same siblings won't cause harm until they lay the the nth clutch? Or that continuously breeding the sibling offspring of the original siblings won't cause harm unitl the nth generation. I have been vague on the number of generations because I have heard different people say anywhere from 9 to 14 generations. So how does it work?

I ask because I am getting ready to buy frogs...my frogs may or may not breed, and I am wondering if it is so important that I hunt for different bloodlines, even if I buy 4 or 5 frogs. I probably won't buy this many though...just wondering just in case.

Thanks,
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Matt

Replies (9)

geckguy Oct 18, 2003 01:27 PM

It does not matter on the number of clutches, say you had a pair of frogs, they had babies thats the 2nd generation, than those babies have babies than thats the 3rd generation, and soon. I have heard that european breeders have inbreed to 10 generations with no problems, but my personal limit is 5 generations, maybe less.
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1.2 Leucomelas
1.1 Green and Bronze Auratus
1.1 Imitators
0.0.1 Vents (more soon)
0.0.4 Nicaraguan Green and Black Auratus
0.0.3 Powder Blue Tincs (soon)

geckguy Oct 18, 2003 01:27 PM

I meant to say *so on* not soon
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1.2 Leucomelas
1.1 Green and Bronze Auratus
1.1 Imitators
0.0.1 Vents (more soon)
0.0.4 Nicaraguan Green and Black Auratus
0.0.3 Powder Blue Tincs (soon)

kyle1745 Oct 18, 2003 04:28 PM

Thats what i have read also. My plan is to breed some, then trade to get unrelated pairs. At least thats the plan. My leucs and my imitators are related.
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Kyle
www.kylesphotos.com
Dart Links - still a work in progress
1.2.0 D. leucomelas
1.1.0 D. azureus
1.0.1 D. imitators

NateW. Oct 18, 2003 06:02 PM

I personally feel that hobbyist should do everything possible to keep bloodlines pure and that we should try to keep info on bloodlines of all our frogs. When my imitators grow , i'm going to try to get frogs from a few other bloodlines. Also i would try to only go a few generations when inbreeding if you have to.
Just my 2 cents
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Nate
1.1 alanis tincs
0.0.2 imitators
0.0.2 Azureus

kyle1745 Oct 18, 2003 06:07 PM

I think most people do just that. I know in my case my frogs are from unrelated parents, so 1 generation is not bad at all, and then I hop to get unrealted pairs afterwords.
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Kyle
www.kylesphotos.com
Dart Links - still a work in progress
1.2.0 D. leucomelas
1.1.0 D. azureus
1.0.1 D. imitators

mbmcewen Oct 18, 2003 10:40 PM

I don't see what the big deal is about inbreeding....I mean, my parents are siblings, and I turned out just fine.
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Matt

treedimensions Oct 18, 2003 11:59 PM

That's not what I heard!......sorry, Devil made me say that. Thanks for the laugh!

mbmcewen Oct 19, 2003 08:11 AM

hehe...serioulsy though....I completely agree with keeping bloodlines separate. I didn't even know that mating siblings of one generation was acceptable unitl just a little while ago...not that I want to do it. I would rather have a different bloodline for every frog. I know that may be hard considering some are hard to find.
I guess the best thing to do is trade right?
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Matt

treedimensions Oct 19, 2003 03:22 PM

I agree. I breed fish and I keep track of the bloodline to keep the inbreeding as small as possible. Some of my fish may go to the local pet shops, and I don't want a hobbyist to have a 3rd, 4th generation pet.

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